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John_Havok
05-12-2013, 06:48 PM
I've just decided to abandon the picture idea, since I am clearly not capable of performing such a monumental task of internetz wizardry.

L - (V) Buffalo 2, Louisville 12

SP Justin Germano 5.1 IP, 7 runs(6 ER) on 9 hits, 1 walk, 3 K
Everts 1.1 IP, 5 runs (3 ER) on 3 hits, 3 walks
Beck 1.1 IP, 2 K

Jimenez 3-4
Gomez 1-4
LaRoche 1-4, run
Langerhans 1-4, RBI, OF assist at 3B
Goins 2-4, run


W - (V) New Hampshire 4, Trenton 0

SP Sean Nolin 6 IP, 4 hits, 2 walks 8 K
Bibens-Dirkx 2 IP, 2 hits, 1 K
Carreno 1 IP, 2 K

Schimpf 1-4, solo HR
Robinson 1-4
Glenn 1-4, run, SB(2)
Tolisano 0-3, walk, run
Murphy 1-4, 3-run HR

Dunedin was not scheduled to play today.

L - (H) Lansing 0, Great Lakes 10

SP Ben White 4.1 IP, 9 runs (2 ER) on 8 hits, 2 walks, 4 K
Champlin 3.2 IP, 1 unearned run on 2 hits, 1 walk, 1 K
Donahue 1 IP, 1 hit, 2 K

Pompey 1-4
Sweeney 1-4
Lopes 0-3, walk
Pierre 1-3
Guerrero 1-1, 2 walks

Havok's performance of the day goes to...... Luis Jimenez.

GD
05-12-2013, 07:01 PM
Jimenez has been playing really well. Pumped to see a great start from Nolin. Hopefully Pompey and Lopes can continue hitting.

Is Donahue really a prospect at all? He's not that great.

dineke
05-12-2013, 07:05 PM
Wow I just checked Anthony Gose's stats, he's really fallen off a cliff...

TheHurl
05-12-2013, 07:07 PM
Havok's performance of the day goes to...... Luis Jimenez.

Nolin says "fuck you"

John_Havok
05-12-2013, 07:12 PM
Donahue is not a prospect at all.

Pompey and Lopes are doing okay, though Pompey is the same as any other of AA's "athletes." He strikes out too much, doesn't have power and doesn't have a good hit tool.

Lopes has a good hit tool and doesn't strike out a lot, but his 2.2% walk rate needs to come up. At 6'0, 185 he might fill out a bit more and maybe get to average power when he fully develops so that wouldn't be bad for a 2b.

John_Havok
05-12-2013, 07:13 PM
Yeah, my bad, Nolin should have been the performance of the day.

I sent you a trade offer. Just a starting point so don't laugh too hard when you read it.

John_Havok
05-12-2013, 07:18 PM
Wow I just checked Anthony Gose's stats, he's really fallen off a cliff...

Despite the ugliness of his overall slash line, Gose has shown some pretty nice progress this year. His K rate is down 10% from previous and his walk rate is up over 5%. BABIP is a bit low as well so while he's not exactly setting the world on fire, He is showing signs that he might not be a complete liability with the bat.. eventually.

Angrioter
05-12-2013, 07:18 PM
Havok's performance of the day goes to...... Luis Jimenez.


Nolin says "fuck you"

Nolin and Angrioter says "fuck you" lol

BabbaGanoush
05-12-2013, 07:18 PM
Carreno really needs to be moved up. The stats hes putting up are comical.

John_Havok
05-12-2013, 07:20 PM
Carreno really needs to be moved up. The stats hes putting up are comical.

AS soon as he can throw his fastball for strikes consistently, I would agree. He has a very good slider but it doesn't play if he can't locate his fastball at all. That was his big problem when he was up with the Jays last year.

GD
05-12-2013, 07:27 PM
Donahue is not a prospect at all.

Pompey and Lopes are doing okay, though Pompey is the same as any other of AA's "athletes." He strikes out too much, doesn't have power and doesn't have a good hit tool.

Lopes has a good hit tool and doesn't strike out a lot, but his 2.2% walk rate needs to come up. At 6'0, 185 he might fill out a bit more and maybe get to average power when he fully develops so that wouldn't be bad for a 2b.

Pompey seems to be fairly decent at getting on base, though, which is more than Alford and co can say.

Lopes is one of my favorite prospects. I saw a poster on here (very smartly) compare him to a Brandon Phillips-lite. Phillips has never had a BB% over 7% in any sort of meaningful sample, but he's quite obviously a very good 2B. He doesn't strike out much, fields very well, and gets on base a good amount, even without walking, and has a bit of pop. That sounds a lot like Lopes.

BabbaGanoush
05-12-2013, 07:29 PM
Im just going off the numbers but it seems like hes got his fb under control. I think he has like 4 walks in 19 inn. Unless hes just throwing 90% sliders or something

John_Havok
05-12-2013, 07:31 PM
Pompey seems to be fairly decent at getting on base, though, which is more than Alford and co can say.

Lopes is one of my favorite prospects. I saw a poster on here (very smartly) compare him to a Brandon Phillips-lite. Phillips has never had a BB% over 7% in any sort of meaningful sample, but he's quite obviously a very good 2B. He doesn't strike out much, fields very well, and gets on base a good amount, even without walking, and has a bit of pop. That sounds a lot like Lopes.

Hey, as long as he doesn't strike out a ton and maintains his line drive stroke, a 5-8% walk rate will do just fine.

GD
05-12-2013, 07:33 PM
A 7.3 BB% last year in rookie ball was very good.

Boxcar
05-12-2013, 08:17 PM
Holy crap, Cedar Rapids beat Beloit 23-16.

John_Havok
05-12-2013, 09:03 PM
Holy crap, Cedar Rapids beat Beloit 23-16.

Yeah they ball flying out of there today. Buxton was a HR shy of the cycle

declan_44
05-12-2013, 09:04 PM
Nolin says "fuck you"

> +1

John_Havok
05-12-2013, 10:21 PM
I feel honoured. My thread got copy/pasted to the MLB forum.

GD
05-12-2013, 10:24 PM
I feel honoured. My thread got copy/pasted to the MLB forum.

Lol that place is so fucking bad

theblujay
05-12-2013, 10:33 PM
JH could you put an "L" in front of Luis Jimenez because I get him confused with AJ every time. Thanks.

Atothe
05-13-2013, 01:24 PM
When SANCHEZ pitching again only thing worth following since Osuna is gone until next year

NJH
05-13-2013, 01:30 PM
Can't wait until they rush Nolin to the big leagues this summer and he blows his arm out!

bendera3
05-13-2013, 01:45 PM
I know he is a non-prospect but as a Philly boy I'd love to see Ben White actually throw a few good games.

Caper
05-13-2013, 01:48 PM
Can't wait until they rush Nolin to the big leagues this summer and he blows his arm out!

He's 23. If he's throwing good stuff, then he might as well do it in the majors.

G-Snarls
05-13-2013, 01:50 PM
Lol that place is so fucking bad

What old forum?

LOL

Atothe
05-13-2013, 02:10 PM
He's 23. If he's throwing good stuff, then he might as well do it in the majors.
If he gets hurt he gets hurt, there is no way to prevent TJS so bring him up or don't . We need quality innings and we need them now

Olerud363
05-13-2013, 03:20 PM
Can't wait until they rush Nolin to the big leagues this summer and he blows his arm out!

Gibby actually seems to let releivers go multiple innings. So it would be possible to get through a game with a young pitcher 5 or 6 innnings, 90-100 pitches then 2 relievers then Jansenn. We do ussually have an 8 man bullpen anyway.

eastcoastjaysfan
05-13-2013, 03:43 PM
Sorry, so Osauna is gone for the year or what

Haven't been following.

GD
05-13-2013, 04:22 PM
Can't wait until they rush Nolin to the big leagues this summer and he blows his arm out!

The most IP Hutchison pitched in one minor league season was 72, and Nolin hit 108 last year, so I don't think there's too much more concern about an injury than there would be under normal circumstances.

Abomination
05-13-2013, 04:27 PM
The most IP Hutchison pitched in one minor league season was 72, and Nolin hit 108 last year, so I don't think there's too much more concern about an injury than there would be under normal circumstances.

No, Hutch threw 149.1 innings in 2011 across 3 levels

GD
05-13-2013, 04:36 PM
No, Hutch threw 149.1 innings in 2011 across 3 levels

Fuck, I misread it. Yeah, then Nolin probably shouldn't be rushed.

Caper
05-13-2013, 04:39 PM
Fuck, I misread it. Yeah, then Nolin probably shouldn't be rushed.

Why? If his stuff is MLB ready.... and he's our best option, what's the difference where he throws his 120 innings at?

GD
05-13-2013, 04:41 PM
Why? If his stuff is MLB ready.... and he's our best option, what's the difference where he throws his 120 innings at?

Because pitching at the MLB level puts a lot more stress on your arm, plus, a lot of guys try to overthrow like Hutch did

Caper
05-13-2013, 04:43 PM
Because pitching at the MLB level puts a lot more stress on your arm, plus, a lot of guys try to overthrow like Hutch did

Why? Are the balls heavier in MLB?

GD
05-13-2013, 05:00 PM
Why? Are the balls heavier in MLB?

Oi, the way you ask rhetorical questions really fucking pisses me off. I'm going to stop talking to you before I do/say something stupid.

Caper
05-13-2013, 05:19 PM
Oi, the way you ask rhetorical questions really fucking pisses me off. I'm going to stop talking to you before I do/say something stupid.


My apologies. Don't mean to be flippant.... I just don't necessarily agree. Maybe if they are told to not throw certain pitches in the minors and then have to move to the majors and throw them... then yeah, I can see it being harder on your arm..... Or if you put to much pressure on yourself and try and do too much......... but. If you got a good head on your shoulders, pitching in TO or NH shouldn't affect your arm at all..... the effectiveness of your pitches could be huge. Where he is 23...and the team needs pitching, I don't see a problem with it.

Boxcar
05-13-2013, 05:30 PM
Because pitching at the MLB level puts a lot more stress on your arm, plus, a lot of guys try to overthrow like Hutch did

uh wat

NJH
05-13-2013, 06:07 PM
Jesus H Christ, it was tongue in cheek.

GD
05-13-2013, 06:14 PM
uh wat

Hutchison fastball velo in April 2012: 91.88
Hutchison fastball velo in June 2012: 92.99

That's a fairly significant spike in just two months, no?

KSaw
05-13-2013, 07:33 PM
My apologies. Don't mean to be flippant.... I just don't necessarily agree. Maybe if they are told to not throw certain pitches in the minors and then have to move to the majors and throw them... then yeah, I can see it being harder on your arm..... Or if you put to much pressure on yourself and try and do too much......... but. If you got a good head on your shoulders, pitching in TO or NH shouldn't affect your arm at all..... the effectiveness of your pitches could be huge. Where he is 23...and the team needs pitching, I don't see a problem with it.

In MLB they have 8 dozen baseballs ready to go and more if needed. In AA and below they have 2 dozen. A ball with the tiniest mark gets thrown out of a Major League game. By the 5th inning of a MiLB game the balls are no better than BP balls for the Majors. An obvious advantage for pitchers.

Caper
05-13-2013, 07:45 PM
In MLB they have 8 dozen baseballs ready to go and more if needed. In AA and below they have 2 dozen. A ball with the tiniest mark gets thrown out of a Major League game. By the 5th inning of a MiLB game the balls are no better than BP balls for the Majors. An obvious advantage for pitchers.

Thanks, didn't know that.... though is it such an advantage? In MLB it always seems to be the catcher giving the ball to the ump for the exchange.

Caper
05-13-2013, 07:48 PM
Norris seems to be pitching a better game for the lugnuts tonight.

TheHurl
05-13-2013, 09:32 PM
In MLB they have 8 dozen baseballs ready to go and more if needed. In AA and below they have 2 dozen. A ball with the tiniest mark gets thrown out of a Major League game. By the 5th inning of a MiLB game the balls are no better than BP balls for the Majors. An obvious advantage for pitchers.

The balls are different as well. Pitchers on rehab starts get to pitch with MLB balls. They are both Rawlings balls but I believe the MILB balls are made in China. I think the MLB balls are made in Costa Rica or something.

John_Havok
05-13-2013, 10:13 PM
That's odd?

A little. You'd think MLB would be able to find a sweatshop a little closer to home. Maybe angrioter has a few dozen cousins that could use some work. :p

Boxcar
05-13-2013, 10:27 PM
The balls are different as well. Pitchers on rehab starts get to pitch with MLB balls. They are both Rawlings balls but I believe the MILB balls are made in China. I think the MLB balls are made in Costa Rica or something.

How the hell do you know stuff like this?