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    Who cares. Let's get more trade analysis. Did BTS pick my pocket or is he overreacting to a small sample? Is Juan Soto the next Juan Gonzalez?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    Who cares. Let's get more trade analysis. Did BTS pick my pocket or is he overreacting to a small sample? Is Juan Soto the next Juan Gonzalez?
    He picked your pocket. Relying on players panning out because Coors is dumb and you should flog yourself. Enjoy owning the next Starlin Castro.
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    Frag are you alive?
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    I know King isn't... little prick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    I agree. Players getting taken by mistake has happened more than a few times, it's just unfortunate that in this case the player actually recorded some stats. Why should this carry a harsher penalty? There's nothing we can do about the stats in the matchup so the next obvious thing to do is try to counteract that. Personally, I think sitting two aces is overkill but asking for picks on top of that? Ridiculous. There should be a clear line which a certain someone is ignoring called intent and as I recall, this individual approached me with renting a player a couple years ago which was deemed to be ethically dubious. How he feels that he can get on his little high horse and preach to others about this is pretty rich but sadly typical.
    Someone tried renting a player from you? That seems like a North type of thing to do

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    who is the council now a days anyway? I want to get opinions and get something on the books ASAP, like before the end of day if possible. If there is draft pick stripping than sitting 2 starters is too much IMHO, so we should let JB know before he does so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    Who cares. Let's get more trade analysis. Did BTS pick my pocket or is he overreacting to a small sample? Is Juan Soto the next Juan Gonzalez?
    I like it slightly for you due to position, but I think it's a fair trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z3r0s View Post
    who is the council now a days anyway? I want to get opinions and get something on the books ASAP, like before the end of day if possible. If there is draft pick stripping than sitting 2 starters is too much IMHO, so we should let JB know before he does so.
    Just NJH. There is no council, we endure under a harsh autocratic government.
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    Frag are you alive?
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    I know King isn't... little prick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    He picked your pocket. Relying on players panning out because Coors is dumb and you should flog yourself. Enjoy owning the next Starlin Castro.
    Starlin Castro at Coors would have been a stud!

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    I hope Rodgers gets traded to the Phillies for Sixto Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cats Ass View Post
    I hope Rodgers gets traded to the Phillies for Sixto Sanchez
    This seems more like something to would happen to Boxy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    This seems more like something to would happen to Boxy.
    You're forgetting the part where they both get career altering injuries immediately after the trade.
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    Frag are you alive?
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    I know King isn't... little prick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cats Ass View Post
    I hope Rodgers gets traded to the Phillies for Sixto Sanchez
    this made me lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysblue View Post
    It's because Silvergun has a personal vendetta against me for some reason. This was my first illegal pickup in this league by the way, and was an honest mistake due to the search function being messed up on the spreadsheet, though I'm willing to comply with any punishment that is decided. Ray is on my bench right now & will bench Greinke tomorrow.
    To clarify, I have no vendetta but also absolutely don't believe you did a search and it failed you.

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    Thanks for the email. I probably would not have noticed this today without it.

    I think everyone is making some good points.
    We don't want to be punitive/draconian...
    ... but we do want to deter illegal adds

    I think if it's noticed before any stats are accumulated then for rare infractions we should not punish at all. IIRC this is how we've done it in the past.

    I don't remember any precedents of illegal adds where the player accumulated stats.

    It makes sense to try to correct what happened to the current matchup - regardless of what the illegally added player actually did. So part of the punishment should be to sit one or more superior or equal players that week - if possible.
    But it won't always be possible to do that, so we need a more consistent draft pick component. And the punishment needs to sting a bit if there is a windfall to the benching - say if Robbie Ray blows chunks, then jaysblue will have benefited from his punishment, which would suck farts.

    Repeated issues should probably add some weight to the punishment.
    FWIW it seems like jaysblue doesn't even check the spreadsheet sometimes. I can quickly find examples from our drafts:

    http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/...=1#post1174027
    http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/...l=1#post519243

    He's essentially a repeat offender when it comes to lazy picks/adds.

    And how egregious the add was should have some bearing. It's ridiculous to assume that, say, Senzel is unowned. It's more reasonable to assume that Tyler Beede is unowned at this point in his career.

    And similarly, we need to consider whether the mistake was made in good-faith. If someone does what Silvergums alluded to and decides to stream an owned player because the punishment is worth it in context, then that owner will be treated severely and possibly removed from the league.

    I'm assuming that jaysblue was just being kind of lazy, and not cheating.

    I like the idea of the opponent picking who the offender specifically has to sit. If possible. I doubt thehurl will be here in time so I'll make an interim ruling in this case.

    And I agree that we should record all this stuff for reference.

    RULING --> Jaysblue should sit Robbie Ray this week and lose his 2019 4th round pick for this. The pick disappears.
    Last edited by Laika; 04-11-2018 at 05:10 PM.

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    thank you oh benevolent dictator for your ruling!

    Truly the best form of rulership until your offspring tries to take over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysblue View Post
    This was my first illegal pickup in this league by the way, and was an honest mistake

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    Repeated issues should probably add some weight to the punishment.
    FWIW it seems like jaysblue doesn't even check the spreadsheet sometimes. I can quickly find examples from our drafts:


    http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/...=1#post1174027
    http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/...l=1#post519243


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    Quote Originally Posted by silvergun View Post
    lol

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