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    Longenhagen ranked the prospects traded during the deadline season:

    45 FV Prospects

    10. Teoscar Hernandez, OF, TOR (Acquired for Francisco Liriano)
    Hernandez simplified his footwork in the box and took off last year, but there was nowhere for him to fit into Houstonís outfield. His natural bat speed and wrist strength generate the quality of his contact. He projects as an average hitter with average game power. If he can play center field (most scouts think he can) heís an average everyday player. In a corner heís a second division regular unless his glove buoys his overall value.

    40 FV Prospects and below

    33. Samad Taylor, 2B, TOR (Acquired from CLE for Joe Smith)
    A twitchy and athletic plus-plus runner without prototypical shortstop arm strength, Taylor has an intriguing blend of physical tools and early-career performance. Scouts are concerned about his lack of size, but he does have some pop. Heíll need it to profile at second.

    44. Thomas Pannone, LHP, TOR (Acquired from CLE for Joe Smith)
    Pannone is throwing a bit harder this year and sitting 88-91. He sequences it well, changing hittersí eye level with it and a loopy curveball. Scouts are skeptical of his stuff playing in the majors long-term, but he has a FIP under 3 at Double-A right now.

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    And from the chat:

    12:33
    Pearced: Thoughts on Pannone? Solid back end starter?

    12:33
    Eric A Longenhagen: Thatís probably his ceiling. Not sure how that fastball will play in the big leagues.


    12:34
    Joe Schlmo: Teoscar Hernandez a solid regular next year?

    12:34
    Eric A Longenhagen: I think so. Has hit well since finding footwork he was comfortable with in the box.


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    Big Tuna: Which prospect improved their value the most at the deadline? (either by trade or trade of competition)

    12:42
    Eric A Longenhagen: Probably Teoscar, who gets a shot to play more regularly now.


    12:45
    Erix: Do you have Connor Greene thoughts?

    12:45
    Eric A Longenhagen: 70 fastball. I think thatís kind of it.


    1:14
    PF: What do you make of the Blue Jaysí business this trade deadline? Pannone seems really interesting by the stat line scouting no?

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    Eric A Longenhagen: He does, but the guy I think is very interesting is Samad Taylor. 70 runner, premium athlete, sneaky raw power for his size.


    1:24
    PF: Best prospect traded at the deadline that no oneí stalking about?

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    Eric A Longenhagen: Luis Madero, Taylor and Myers are the ones I think are fun sleepers in this yearís group.
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    Not high on Pannone. I'm a big stuff guy...and Pannone doesn't have it, or at least not enough of it for my liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krylian View Post
    Not high on Pannone. I'm a big stuff guy...and Pannone doesn't have it, or at least not enough of it for my liking.
    If he continues to pitch well he might be a guy we can flip for more later. We might also have a back of the rotation need.

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    Pannones scouting grades according to MLB.com are very interesting: Fastball: 50 | Curveball: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 55 | Overall: 45

    Despite projecting as above average in every category, his overall projected future value is still 45.

    At the very least, Pannone and Taylor seems like intriguing lottery tickets. I'm more than happy we were able to land not 1, but 2 interesting prospects for half a season of Joe Smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Pannones scouting grades according to MLB.com are very interesting: Fastball: 50 | Curveball: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 55 | Overall: 45

    Despite projecting as above average in every category, his overall projected future value is still 45.

    At the very least, Pannone and Taylor seems like intriguing lottery tickets. I'm more than happy we were able to land not 1, but 2 interesting prospects for half a season of Joe Smith.
    His name is Joe Smith but he was a top 10 reliever before getting hurt. They should have been able to get something good either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlingtonbandit View Post
    His name is Joe Smith but he was a top 10 reliever before getting hurt. They should have been able to get something good either way.
    Not quite (27th in WAR), unless you weren't considering closers as relievers
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    Quote Originally Posted by burlingtonbandit View Post
    His name is Joe Smith but he was a top 10 reliever before getting hurt. They should have been able to get something good either way.
    He's still a rental relief pitcher. I really don't think we could expect more than what we got.

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    Another day at the office for Bichette.

    2-3 with a double and a walk. Now hitting .410

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruber92 View Post
    Another day at the office for Bichette.

    2-3 with a double and a walk. Now hitting .410
    Please don't post about Bichette. You'll curse his career
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Havok View Post
    Please don't post about Bichette. You'll curse his career
    Ok Clarence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruber92 View Post
    Ok Clarence.
    Lighten up. It's a joke.



    But seriously... don't
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade View Post
    He's still a rental relief pitcher. I really don't think we could expect more than what we got.
    The Cubs were willing to move Candelario for a reliever. The Astros gave up Teoscar for Liriano and cash and they seem to seem him as a reliever. By those standards the return for Smith is pretty light on paper. Seems like Shatkins wanted to accomodate the player and also use inside knowledge of the Indians system to target potentially undervalued players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKat View Post
    The Cubs were willing to move Candelario for a reliever. The Astros gave up Teoscar for Liriano and cash and they seem to seem him as a reliever. By those standards the return for Smith is pretty light on paper. Seems like Shatkins wanted to accomodate the player and also use inside knowledge of the Indians system to target potentially undervalued players.
    Yes I suspect Pannone may have more potential than the 'rankings' would suggest. If nothing else, maybe he can be a successful lefty reliever. Smith has previous history with Shapiro and the Indians between 2009 and 2013. He already suggested in an interview post trade that a return to the Jays in 2018 is a possibility. Trading Smith to the Indians during this difficult time with his mother's unfortunate situation is great for the Jays in building some goodwill among the MLB player fraternity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKat View Post
    The Cubs were willing to move Candelario for a reliever. The Astros gave up Teoscar for Liriano and cash and they seem to seem him as a reliever. By those standards the return for Smith is pretty light on paper. Seems like Shatkins wanted to accomodate the player and also use inside knowledge of the Indians system to target potentially undervalued players.
    Justin Wilson also has another year of control.

    When we traded for Mark Lowe, we gave up Rob Rasmussen, Jacob Brentz, and Nick Wells, and Lowe was having a better season compared to Smith. There's only so much you can get for a non-elite rental reliever coming off injury. I don't think the return is all that light.

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    Vid of Kyle Wright making his High-A debut vs. Bichette, Biggio, Vlad, Pentecost, and McGuire

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