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    Hey spanky99 truth hurt.
    And once again everybody is talking about trading your best prospects.
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    All Anthony Alford is. Is other Dalton Pompey or a Devon Travis.
    This team does not need more players like that.

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    All Anthony Alford is. Is other Dalton Pompey or a Devon Travis.
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    Found this wandering around twitter today, pretty good read on a former international prospect signing by the Jays that youve never heard of, that began a new way of how I termational free agents got paid. Really enjoyed it

    http://toronto.locals.baseballprospe...l-free-agency/
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    This is a pretty decent looking list, imo.

    http://prospects1500.com/top-50-list...-50-prospects/

    Toronto Blue Jays Top 50 Prospects for 2018

    2017 was a disappointing year at the major league level in Toronto after two consecutive trips to the post-season. So far this winter things have been moving slowly as we wait to see how the Blue Jays will fill the holes in the roster. Management has said the plan is to contend again this season rather than blow things up and rebuild. GM Ross Atkins called it a “soft reset,”whatever that means. It appears the plan is to wait out the market and hope to fill some spots with free agents on shorter term deals to help bridge the gap while they wait for the kids to arrive. A number of the top prospects are now into the upper levels and getting close to being ready to make the jump. The future for 2019 and beyond is good.
    Prospects1500 Tiers:
    Tier 1: Players with high expectations of both making the majors and playing at an All-Star level for a number of years
    Tier 2: Players with an above average expectation of making the majors and being a solid contributor
    Tier 3: Players with an average expectation of making the majors and being a solid contributor
    Tier 4: Players who have the potential of making the majors, or have high likelihood of making the majors but providing minimal impact (e.g. middle reliever, low-ceiling UT guys)
    Tier 5: Players who are worth keeping an eye on, but likely to never make a team’s 40-man roster






    TIER 1:

    1. Vladimir Guerrero, 3B (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#3, Mid-#1)
    Age: 18 (DOB 03/16/99)
    2017 Highest Level: – High A
    Guerrero is arguably the top prospect in all of baseball with a very high ceiling. He is the REAL DEAL. He was a combined .323/.425/.485 with 13 HR and 76 RBI over two levels at Lansing (Low A) and Dunedin (High A) this season. The thing that stands out at such a young age is the patience at the plate with 109 walks and only 97 strikeouts in his first two seasons. He is projected to hit over .300 with 30+ HR. He was named by Keith Law as ESPN’s prospect of the year. He will again be the youngest player in his league when he starts 2018 at New Hampshire (AA). ETA: 2019

    2. Bo Bichette, SS (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#9, Mid-#2)
    Age: 19 (DOB: 03/05/98)
    2017 Highest Level – High A
    Bichette was outstanding this year having one of the best seasons of all minor league players. He was a combined .362/.423/.565 with 14 HR, 74 RBI and 22 SB over two levels at Lansing (Low A) and Dunedin (High A). Many scouts have said that his unorthodox mechanics will not hold up but he continues to prove them all wrong. He has shown that he can hit, with at least one hit in 91 and multi-hit games in 51 of his 110 games this season. He was named the Midwest League MVP and also won the offensive player of the year award by milb.com. Bichette will be one of the youngest players in the Eastern League at New Hampshire (AA) in 2018. ETA: 2019

    TIER 2
    3. Anthony Alford, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#1, Mid-#3)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 07/20/94)
    2017 Highest Level: MLB
    Alford played across four levels in 2017 including 4 games in Toronto in May where he unfortunately suffered a broken hamate bone. He spent the majority of his time at New Hampshire (AA), both before and after the wrist injury with impressive results hitting .310/.406/.429 with 5 HR and 45 SB. Alford was sent to play winter ball in the Mexican League where he has been lighting it up with the bat hitting .352/.386/.505 along with 2 HR and 8 SB in 26 games. He recently suffered an ankle injury, described as nothing serious that will probably end his winter ball season. He will compete for one of the outfield spots in Toronto at spring training but may need some more time at Buffalo (AAA). ETA: 2018

    4. Sean Reid-Foley, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#2, Mid-#4)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 08/30/95)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    Reid-Foley struggled in his first crack at New Hampshire (AA). He was 10-11 with a 5.09 ERA in 27 starts. The home runs were the killer for him as he gave up an Eastern league leading 22. He had 122 K in 132.2 IP with his fastball that reaches 97 mph. There is some talk that he will compete in spring training for the #5 spot in the Toronto rotation but more likely will return to the New Hampshire (AA) rotation. ETA: 2019

    5. Nate Pearson, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-#11)
    Age: 21 (DOB: 08/20/96)
    2017 Highest Level: Short Season A
    Pearson was selected in the first round of the 2017 draft as free agency compensation for Edwin Encarnacion. He was dominating in his debut at Vancouver (Short Season A). He had a 0.90 ERA in 8 starts with 11.4 K/9. Baseball America recently rated him as having the best fastball and best slider in the system. The 6’4”, 240 lb. right-hander who can hit 100 mph might skip a level and start 2018 in the Dunedin (High A) rotation. ETA: 2020

    6. Logan Warmoth, SS (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-#10)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 09/06/95)
    2017 Highest Level: Short Season A
    Warmoth was selected in the first round of the 2017 draft. He is a good all-round hitter who hit .306/.356/.419 at Vancouver (Short Season A) after debuting with a brief stop at Bluefield (Rookie). Some scouts feel his lack of arm strength and the glut of shortstops in the system may see him moving to second base at some point. He might skip a level and go straight to Dunedin (High A) to begin 2018. ETA: 2020

    7. Lourdes Gurriel, SS (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#6, Mid-#5)
    Age: 24 (DOB: 10/19/93)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    After missing the entire 2016 season due to the process coming from his native Cuba, Gurriel showed steady improvement in his first season with the Blue Jays. He struggled in his debut at Dunedin (High A) hitting only .197 but was better against the stronger competition at New Hampshire (AA) when promoted in mid-July. He hit .241/.286/.376 with 4 HR at AA. His ability to play multiple positions may make him that Ben Zobrist-type super-utility player Toronto has been searching for. After the season he was sent to the AFL where he performed well hitting .291/.309/.494 with 3 HR in 21 games. He should return to New Hampshire to start the 2018 season. ETA: late-2018

    8. Danny Jansen, C (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#34, Mid-#12)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 04/15/95)
    2017 Highest Level: AAA
    Nobody made a bigger move up the top 50 list this year than Jansen. Healthy for a full season and wearing glasses for the first time he was .323/.400/.484 with 10 HR rocketing through Dunedin (High A) and New Hampshire (AA) all the way to Buffalo (AAA). He finished the final month of the season leading the AAA team with a .975 OPS. He should start 2018 at Buffalo (AAA) but could be a factor in Toronto before too long. ETA: 2018

    9. Richard Urena, SS (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#5, Mid-#7)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 02/26/96)
    2017 Highest Level: MLB
    Switch-hitting Urena had a good season at New Hampshire (AA) where he led the Eastern league in doubles (36) and hit .247/.286/.359. He was rewarded with a September call up to Toronto where he had some early success hitting .324 through his first 9 games but ended up at .206 once the league started to catch up to him. He will be one of the youngest players at the AAA level when he starts at Buffalo (AAA) and should return to Toronto at some point in 2018.

    TIER 3
    10. T.J. Zeuch, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#10, Mid-#9)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 08/01/95)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Zeuch was selected in the first round of the 2016 draft. In his second season at Dunedin (High A) he had a 3.23 ERA in 10 starts before suffering a lower back injury. He only pitched in a few rehab starts after that. He was sent to the AFL after the season to get in some extra innings and had impressive results. He had a 3.38 ERA in 24 IP and was the winning pitcher in the championship game. He should start 2018 at New Hampshire (AA). ETA: 2019

    11. Rowdy Tellez, 1B (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#4, Mid-#6)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 03/16/95)
    2017 Highest Level: AAA
    Tellez was all the rage at spring training last year and was very close to being named the Blue Jays starting first baseman. Instead though he was sent to Buffalo (AAA) where he struggled and had a very frustrating year. After such a strong 2016 season at New Hampshire (AA) he hit a lowly .222/.295/.333 with only 6 HR. He was one of the youngest players at the AAA level so we’ll give him a mulligan and hope that he can get things back on track in 2018 back at Buffalo. ETA: 2018

    12. Ryan Borucki, LHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#19, Mid-#19)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 03/31/94)
    2017 Highest Level: AAA
    The left-hander was great this year moving up through three levels. Borucki started the year at Dunedin (High A) with a 3.58 ERA and 1.24 WHIP in 18 starts. When challenged with stronger competition at New Hampshire (AA) he was just outstanding. He had a 1.94 ERA and 0.84 WHIP in 7 starts before finishing the year with one start at Buffalo (AAA) pitching 6 shutout innings. He also led the entire system with 157 strikeouts. Baseball America recently rated him as having the best changeup and best control in the system. He will most likely start the season in the Buffalo rotation but will become a factor in Toronto at some point in 2018. ETA: 2018

    13. Max Pentecost, C (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#13, Mid-#14)
    Age: 24 (DOB: 03/10/93)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Injuries have been the story of Pentecost’s career so far. The former first round pick (2014) finally got back on the field this season playing both catcher and first base. He missed the entire 2015 season after having three separate shoulder surgeries. He was restricted to DH only when he returned in 2016. He had a strong start to 2017 at Dunedin (High A) hitting .291/.355/.495 with 9 HR in the first half before losing another month to injury. He was sent to the AFL after the season to make up for lost time but was again shut down due to shoulder soreness and missed the final 8 games. He should start 2018 at New Hampshire (AA). ETA: 2019

    14. Conner Greene, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#11, Mid-#13)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 04/04/95)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    Greene spent his third season at New Hampshire (AA). The results were not good, especially down the stretch when he had a 7.29 ERA and 2.05 WHIP in his last 10 starts. The walk rate was up to 5.6/9 with an Eastern league leading 83 walks. His fastball routinely hits triple digits but he needs to figure out his control. What they do with him in the spring should be interesting. Does he remain a starter and return again to New Hampshire (AA) or possibly to Buffalo (AAA) or is it time to make him a shut-down reliever and get him into the Toronto bullpen? ETA: 2019

    15. Edward Olivares, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-#16)
    Age: 21 (DOB: 03/06/96)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Olivares is an intriguing prospect who saw his stock rise considerably this season with a breakout year at Lansing (Low A) hitting .277/.330/.500 and leading the team in HR (17), RBI (65) and TB (213). He is a 5 tool player with plus speed also having 20 SB. He was promoted to Dunedin (High A) in August. He will start 2018 back there and should finish the season in New Hampshire (AA). ETA: 2020

    16. Justin Maese, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#15, Mid-#18)
    Age: 21 (DOB: 10/24/96)
    2017 Highest Level: A
    Maese lost two months this season with shoulder soreness. When he got hurt in late May he was leading Lansing (Low A) with 5 wins, 54 K and was the only pitcher at the time in the minors with 3 complete games. He was named to the Northwest League All Star Game. He returned in late July to make three rehab starts in the GCL (Rookie) and two starts in early August back at Lansing before being shut down for the season. He should get back on track in 2018 at Dunedin (High A). ETA: 2020

    17. Taylor Guerrieri, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#12(TB), Mid-#37(TB))
    Age: 25 (DOB: 12/01/92)
    2017 Highest Level: AAA
    Guerrieri was claimed on waivers from Tampa Bay in November. He is a former first round pick from the 2011 draft who was ranked as the Rays top prospect by MLB Pipeline in 2013 and also ranked by Baseball America at 68 in their top 100 overall. His career record in the minors is 25-13 with a 2.51 ERA and 1.06 WHIP in six seasons. Injuries have stalled his progression twice when he lost all of 2014 due to Tommy John surgery and most of last season with further elbow issues that did not require surgery. Healthy again now he will compete in spring training for the #5 spot in the Toronto rotation. ETA: 2018

    18. Hagen Danner, C (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-#22)
    Age: 19 (DOB: 09/03/98)
    2017 Highest Level: Rookie
    Danner was selected in the second round of the 2017 draft. He made his debut at Bluefield (Rookie) where he struggled hitting only .160/.207/.248 with 36 strikeouts in 34 games. How long will it be before they consider converting him to a pitcher? Many scouts leading up to the draft thought he would be a better pitcher than catcher. He will probably return to Bluefield to begin 2018. ETA: 2022

    19. Jon Harris, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#7, Mid-#15)
    Age: 24 (DOB: 10/16/93)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    Harris was selected in the first round of the 2015 draft. He was a workhorse leading New Hampshire (AA) with 143 IP. The results however were nothing special after his excellent 2016 season at Dunedin (High A). He was 7-11 with a 5.79 ERA and 1.51 WHIP. A repeat year at New Hampshire is likely for 2018. ETA: 2019

    20. Eric Pardinho, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-#21)
    Age: 16 (DOB: 01/05/01)
    2017 Highest Level: DNP
    Pardinho was rated as the top international pitcher available in the 2017 IFA class. The Blue Jays gave him a $1.4M signing bonus. Reports are that he is throwing 97 mph and Baseball America recently rated him as having the best curveball in the Blue Jays system. Very impressive for someone that young. He should start 2018 with the GCL Blue Jays (Rookie). ETA: 2023

    21. Reese McGuire, C (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#12, Mid-#20)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 03/02/95)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    McGuire missed two months with a knee injury this season. He played in only 34 games at New Hampshire (AA) but hit .278/.366/.496 with 6 HR, strong numbers for someone who is supposed to be a defense-first catcher. Baseball America recently rated him as the best defensive catcher in the system. He should compete in spring training for the backup role to Russell Martin. ETA: 2018

    22. Riley Adams, C (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-#24)
    Age: 21 (DOB: 06/26/96)
    2017 Highest Level: Short Season A
    Adams was drafted in the third round of the 2017 draft and had a strong debut season at Vancouver (Short Season A). He led the team in doubles (16) and was second in HR (3) and RBI (35) while hitting .305/.374/.438. He was also better behind the plate than initial reports suggested with a .994 FPCT and 40% of runners being thrown out. He should start 2018 at Lansing (Low A). ETA: 2021

    23. Harold Ramirez, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#8, Mid-#17)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 09/06/94)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    Ramirez had a disappointing season which saw his numbers decline to .266/.320/.358 after hitting over .300 his previous three seasons. After two full seasons at the AA level he should move up to Buffalo (AAA) to start 2018. ETA: 2020

    24. Thomas Pannone, LHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#35 (Cle), Mid-#27)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 04/28/94)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    Pannone was acquired from Cleveland at the trade deadline for Joe Smith. He is a polished lefty who was a combined 7-3 with a 2.92 ERA and 1.09 WHIP combined with Akron (AA) and New Hampshire (AA). He should start in the Buffalo (AAA) rotation and could get a call-up to Toronto at some point in 2018. ETA: 2019





    TIER 4
    25. Kevin Smith, SS (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-#28)
    Age: 21 (DOB: 07/04/96)
    2017 Highest Level: Rookie
    Smith was drafted in the fourth round of the 2017 draft. He had a good first season at Bluefield (Rookie) where he finished strong hitting .304/.344/.513 in August and had 8 HR overall. He should start 2018 at Lansing (Low A). ETA: 2021

    26. Ryan Noda, 1B (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-UR)
    Age: 21 (DOB: 03/30/96)
    2017 Highest Level: Rookie
    Noda was selected in round 15 of the 2017 draft and outperformed all the players that were selected before him. He was outstanding at Bluefield (Rookie) where he was named Player of the year. He showed good patience and plus power hitting .364/.507/.575 with 7 HR and 18 doubles playing mostly first base. He should begin 2018 at Lansing (Low A) and play more in the outfield.
    ETA: 2021

    27. Angel Perdomo, LHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#14, Mid-#25)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 05/07/94)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Perdomo was 5-6 with a 3.70 ERA in 16 starts at Dunedin (High A) before his season ended in mid-July with an injury. After six seasons in the organization it is time for him to start making his mark. He should move up to New Hampshire (AA). ETA: 2019

    28. Kevin Vicuna, SS (’17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-UR)
    Age: 19 (DOB: 01/14/98)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Vicuna began the season with an aggressive posting by the organization at Dunedin (High A) and struggled at the plate. When the rookie leagues opened in June he was sent back down to Vancouver (Short Season A) where he hit .280/.333/.307. He finished the year strong at Lansing (Low A) and should begin 2018 back there possibly moving to second base with the number of shortstops in the lower minors. His defense is good enough, the bat will determine how far he goes. ETA: 2020

    29. Joshua Palacios, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#22, Mid-#32)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 07/30/95)
    2017 Highest Level: A
    Palacios had a slow start to his season at Lansing (Low A) but finished up strong hitting .328/.403/.421 in the second half. We have yet to see any power, only two home runs so far but that should come as he gets further away from the wrist injury he suffered back in college. He should start 2018 at Dunedin (High A). ETA: 2020

    30. Dwight Smith, Jr, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#18, Mid-#29)
    Age: 25 (DOB: 10/26/92)
    2017 Highest Level: MLB
    Smith had two call-ups to the majors this past season and hit well in 29 AB’s. Small sample size but he was .370/.414/.429. He should be in the outfield mix for playing time again in 2018 but with the team looking to add at least one outfielder in free agency he should return for his second season at Buffalo (AAA).

    31. D.J. Davis, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#20, Mid-#33)
    Age: 24 (DOB: 06/27/93)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Has the former first round pick from the 2012 draft finally turned the corner? His second full season at Dunedin (High A) saw him have a strong finish hitting .333 in August with a career high 32 SB. The strikeouts are still high (92) but have been decreasing year-over-year. He should start 2018 at New Hampshire (AA) ETA: 2020

    32. Maverik Buffo, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-UR)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 09/15/95)
    2017 Highest Level: Rookie
    Buffo was selected in round 34 of the 2017 draft. Buffo suffered a UCL injury early in his college career that he chose therapy rather than surgery for. Teams were cautious in the draft which saw his stock drop. In order keep a closer eye on his elbow he debuted in the GCL where he was a bit old for the level. After first appearing in relief he made 5 starts in August where he dominated going 3-1 with 1 ER, 27 strikeouts and 2 walks in 24.2 IP. He should move up to Lansing (Low A) in 2018. ETA: 2021

    33. Francisco Rios, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#17, Mid-#31)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 05/06/95)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    Rios had mixed results this season at New Hampshire (AA) after having a breakout year in 2016. He was 3-9 with a 3.74 ERA as a starter. He was moved to the bullpen in August where the results declined. I could see them moving him up to Buffalo (AAA) in 2018 and using him exclusively as a reliever. His fastball may jump up slightly when working out of the bullpen. ETA: 2019

    34. Zach Jackson, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#24, Mid-#34)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 12/25/94)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    At 6’4” 230 lbs. Jackson is the closer of the future. He continues to show impressive results moving quickly through the system. He started 2017 in the Lansing (Low A) bullpen and was promoted up to Dunedin (High A) in early June. He had 68 strikeouts in 51 IP with 6 saves across the two levels. He is nearly unhittable holding opponents to a .175 average while stranding 81% of runners LOB. He should start the year as the closer at New Hampshire (AA). A promotion to Toronto in 2018 would not be out of the question but an ETA of 2019 is more likely.

    35. Jordan Romano, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-#30)
    Age: 24 (DOB: 04/21/93)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Romano finished his second successful season since having Tommy John surgery leading Dunedin (High A) with 26 starts. He had a 3.39 ERA with 138 strikeouts and 54 walks in 138 IP. He has an above average slider and a 96 mph fastball. His dominance against right handed batters and struggles against left handed batters may eventually find him in the bullpen. He will however continue to develop as a starter and move up to the New Hampshire (AA) rotation in 2018. ETA: 2020

    36. Connor Panas, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-UR)
    Age: 25 (DOB: 02/11/93)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Panas is a hometown boy from the Toronto area who was drafted as a college senior in the ninth round of the 2015 draft. He had a breakout season at Dunedin (High A) hitting .276/.364/.475 with 18 HR and 55 RBI. He finished off his season with 2 home runs in the final game to win the Florida State League championship. He should move up to New Hampshire (AA) in 2018.

    37. Jonathan Davis, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#25, Mid-#42)
    Age: 25 (DOB: 05/12/92)
    2017 Highest Level AA
    Following up on his breakout 2016 season, Davis put together another solid season at New Hampshire (AA) hitting .249/.361/.379 with 10 HR. Davis was sent to the AFL after the season and was outstanding as the leadoff hitter on the championship winning Peoria team. He hit .295 with a .389 OBP and was 7 for 8 stealing bases. Depending on how things play out this off-season with the OF situation at the major league level, he should be in the mix for a spot at Buffalo (AAA) awaiting his opportunity. If he continues to improve he could make a useful 4th outfielder in the future. ETA: 2019

    38. Yennsy Diaz, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#31, Mid-#36)
    Age: 21 (DOB: 11/15/96)
    2017 Highest Level: A
    Diaz had a strong start to the season at Lansing (Low A) with a 2.16 ERA and 1.08 WHIP in his first 4 starts in June. He could not keep up that pace though ending the season with a 4.79 ERA. He has a 97 mph fastball which produced 82 K in 77 IP. He should return to the Lansing rotation for 2018. ETA: 2020

    39. Reggie Pruitt, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#33, Mid-#44)
    Age: 20 (DOB: 05/07/97)
    2017 Highest Level: Short Season A
    Pruitt is an outfielder with blazing speed who Baseball America ranked #20 in the Northwest League and rated him as having the best outfield arm in the system. He had 28 SB at Vancouver (Short Season A). He was much improved in the second half hitting .250/.323/.336 in July and August. He will need to show more with the bat as he moves up to Lansing (Low A) in 2018. Although he is still very raw, he is not likely to be more than a defense first platoon player down the road.

    TIER 5
    40. Samad Taylor, 2B (‘17 ranks, Pre-#47 (Cle), Mid-UR)
    Age: 19 (DOB: 07/11/98)
    2017 Highest Level: Short Season A
    Taylor was acquired along with Thomas Pannone in the deadline deal from Cleveland for Joe Smith. He was drafted in the tenth round in 2016 by the Indians. He has shown solid contact so far hitting .294/.344/.422 combined at both Mahoning Valley (Short Season A) and Vancouver (Short Season A). His 6 HR this season is a good sign that the power should be there as well. He should start 2018 at Lansing (Low A).

    41. Patrick Murphy, RHP (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#35, Mid-#39)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 06/10/95)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    After being drafted in the third round in the 2013 draft this was really only his second season pitching after injuries stalled the beginning of his career. He spent most of the season at Lansing (Low A) where he had a 2.94 ERA and 1.35 WHIP. He got 2 starts late in the season at Dunedin (High A) where he should return to in 2018.

    42. Roemon Fields, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#32, Mid-#48)
    Age: 27 (DOB: 11/28/90)
    2017 Highest Level: AAA
    I considered leaving Fields off this list as his age is pushing him beyond prospect relevance but 2017 was the best of his career so he may yet become a factor. At Buffalo (AAA) he hit .291/.355/.352 with 43 stolen bases. I thought when the Blue Jays were scuffling along and having trouble scoring runs last season that promoting the speedy Fields might be the spark they needed but that call never came. His strong base-running skills and good outfield defense may make him valuable as a 4th outfielder.

    43. Miguel Hiraldo, SS (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-#40)
    Age: 17 (DOB: 09/05/00)
    2017 Highest Level: DNP
    Hiraldo was rated as the top overall bat in the 2017 IFA class. He was signed to a $750,000 bonus. He is a smart hitter who will hit a lot of line drives to the whole field with the chance for power to be there. He should make his debut in the GCL in 2018.

    44. Leonardo Jimenez, SS (‘17 Ranks, Pre-N/A, Mid-#45)
    Age: 16 (DOB: 05/17/01)
    2017 Highest Level: DNP
    Jimenez was signed for $825,000 this past summer as an international free agent from Panama. He is very young, one of the youngest players in the 2017 class. Assistant GM Andrew Tinnish feels he has leadoff or #2 hole potential and a good chance to stay at shortstop.

    45. Ivan Castillo, 3B (’17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-UR)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 05/30/95)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    Castillo was picked in the AAA portion of the Rule 5 draft from Cleveland. He has spent six seasons with the Indians since signing in 2011 as a NDFA. He briefly reached the AAA level in 2016 but last season was split between Lynchburg (High A) and Akron (AA) hitting .267/.341/.354.

    46. Juan Kelly, 1B (‘17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-#37)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 07/16/94)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    The corner infielder showed some versatility this season playing four games in left field and three behind the plate. Kelly had a strong second half of the season at Dunedin (High A) hitting .303 with 7 HR and 43 RBI. He should move up to New Hampshire (AA) in 2018.

    47. Eduard Pinto, OF (‘17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-#46)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 10/23/94)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Pinto hit only .149 in 15 games at Dunedin (High A) after being acquired from Texas for Jason Grilli in early July. He had a career .304 AVG over his five seasons in the Rangers organization. He won the Northwest League batting title in 2014. Hopefully he can get back to those numbers as he moves up to New Hampshire (AA) in 2018.

    48. Bradley Jones, 2B (‘17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-#38)
    Age: 22 (DOB: 06/12/95)
    2017 Highest Level: High A
    Jones had a tremendous start to the season and was a fast rising slugger at Lansing (Low A) hitting .326/.394/.560 with 9 home runs. A broken bone in his hand however ended his season shortly after being promoted to Dunedin (High A) in June. He should return to Dunedin in 2018.

    49. Tim Lopes, 2B (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#41, Mid-UR)
    Age: 23 (DOB: 06/24/94)
    2017 Highest Level: AA
    Lopes spent the season at New Hamphsire (AA) which was his second full season at that level after spending 2016 with Jackson, Seattle’s AA team. He hit .271/.338/.390 with 7 home runs, 50 RBI and had 19 stolen bases. He should move up to Buffalo (AAA) in 2018.

    50. Yeltsin Gudino, SS (‘17 Ranks, Pre-#43, Mid-#50)
    Age: 20 (DOB: 01/17/97)
    2017 Highest Level: A
    Gudino hit .256 this year at Lansing (Low A). He has increased his AVG, OPS and strikeout rate in each of his four seasons since joining the organization as an IFA in 2013. The errors were down as well this season. He should continue to improve as he moves up to Dunedin (High A).

    51. Jason Leblebijian, 3B (‘17 Ranks, Pre-UR, Mid-#23)
    Age: 26 (DOB: 05/13/91)
    2017 Highest Level: AAA
    Leblebijian had a good year at Buffalo (AAA) hitting .258/.323/.405 with 11 HR, 22 doubles but the numbers declined dramatically in the second half of the season. He has some versatility having played all around the infield in his minor league career but has played mostly at third base the past couple seasons. Heading into his Age 27 season time may be running out. He will return for a second year at Buffalo (AAA) in 2018.

    OTHER NAMES CONSIDERED
    Cavan Biggio, 2B – Age: 22 – drafted Rd. 5 2016 – 2017 Highest Level: High A
    Travis Hosterman, LHP; Age: 19 – drafted Rd. 11 2016 – 2017 Highest Level: DNP
    Cullen Large, 2B; Age: 22 – drafted Rd. 5 2017 – 2017 Highest Level: Short Season A
    Turner Larkins, RHP; Age: 22 – drafted Rd. 21 2017 – 2017 Highest Level: Rookie
    Tim Mayza, RP; Age: 25 – drafted Rd. 12 2013 – 2017 Highest Level: MLB
    Alejandro Melean, RHP; Age: 17 – Signed 2017 IFA – 2017 Highest Level: DNP
    Eddyzon Moreno, OF; Age: 17 – Signed 2017 IFA – 2017 Highest Level: DNP
    Carlos Ramirez, RP; Age:26 – Signed as NDFA 2009 – 2017 Highest Level: MLB
    Yorman Rodriguez, C; Age:20 – Signed 2014 IFA – 2017 Highest Level: Short Season A.

    SUPER SLEEPER ALERT
    Mc Gregory Contreras, OF
    Age: 19 (DOB: 08/30/98)
    2017 Highest Level: Rookie
    If you’re looking for someone poised for a breakout who you won’t find on any other lists, this is your guy. The Blue Jays signed him in 2015 with the $10,000 that they had left after using all their international pool money to sign the great Vladdy Jr. After spending 2016 in the DSL he skipped the GCL and was sent to Bluefield (Rookie) this season where he hit .279/.335/.421 with 5 HR and 33 RBI. Baseball America ranked him as the 19th best prospect in the APPY. Grab him before everyone else.

    AND WELCOME BACK
    Deck McGuire, SP
    Age: 28 (DOB: 06/23/89)
    2017 Highest Level: MLB
    McGuire was the first of the four picks Toronto had in the first round of the 2010 draft, taken before Aaron Sanchez and Noah Syndergaard and two picks before the White Sox selected Chris Sale. He spent 3 ½ years in the Blue Jays system before being DFA’d and sold to Oakland in July 2014. He moved around the last three seasons with the Dodgers, Cardinals and Reds. He was 9-9 with a 2.79 ERA in 27 starts in 2017 at Pensacola (AA) and finally made his major league debut as a September call-up with Cincinnati. He is still rookie-eligible and would rank in the tier 4 level of the list but at 28 years old I left him off the list. He signed a minor league contract with Toronto in November and will compete for the #5 spot in the rotation at Spring Training.

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    Interesting that they think Taylor Guerrieri and Deck McGuire will compete for the 5th rotation spot. I still think we’ll acquire someone.

    They seem to be a bit low on Dwight Smith Jr and Thomas Pannone.

    I didn’t realise that Francisco Rios is now a reliever.

    It’s also encouraging that they have 8 players with an ETA of this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthe4th View Post
    Interesting that they think Taylor Guerrieri and Deck McGuire will compete for the 5th rotation spot. I still think we’ll acquire someone.

    They seem to be a bit low on Dwight Smith Jr and Thomas Pannone.

    I didn’t realise that Francisco Rios is now a reliever.

    It’s also encouraging that they have 8 players with an ETA of this season.
    Pannone is far too low.
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    Pimp-Foley 5th rotation spot?
    I wouldn't put too much thought into that, Ang.
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    BP's Jays list out today:

    1. Vladimir Guerrero, Jr., 3B
    DOB: 3/16/1999
    Height/Weight: 6’1”, 210 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Signed July 2015 out of the Dominican Republic by Toronto for $3.9 million.
    Previous Ranking(s): #3 (Org)
    2017 Stats: .333/.450/.494, 6 HR, 2 SB in 48 games at High-A Dunedin; .316/.409/.480, 7 HR, 6 SB in 71 games at Low-A Lansing


    The Good: Guerrero might have the best offensive profile in the minors at this point, as he tore through both Low-A and High-A at the tender age of 18. He demonstrates elite bat-to-ball ability, showcasing phenomenal hand-eye coordination and wrist strength. He is capable of driving a ball in any part of the zone, or even outside of it. He pairs the bat with plus-plus raw power, and although the tool plays down in games due a contact-oriented swing, he is still more than capable of hitting his fair share of home runs. However, before drawing comparisons to his father, take note that Vladito also displays a batting eye well beyond his years. His plate discipline was among the best in the minors this year, as he walked more than he struck out at both levels. Guerrero also possesses an above-average arm that fits comfortably at third.

    The Bad: Guerrero is charitably listed at 210 pounds, but in reality he carries a fair bit more weight. The body is already high maintenance at 18, and it’s not hard to envision health and fitness becoming a problem as he ages. While he played all of 2017 at the hot corner, he defense at the position is inconsistent and raw. He’ll flash decent athleticism and reflexes, but he has stiff hands and limited range. He might be able to make it work at the position given time, but it seems likely that the bat and body force him across the diamond before long. He is only a fringe-average runner at present, and will likely lose a step (or more) as he enters his 20s.

    The Role:

    OFP 70—A .300/.400/.500 threat who can fill in at third
    Likely 60—An above-average hitting first baseman

    The Risks: Despite having not reached the upper minors, Guerrero seems very likely to hit in the majors, making him safer than most prospects. His risks mainly come from a limited ceiling due to defense and long term question marks about how his body will develop. —Emmett Rosenbaum

    Major league ETA: Late 2018/Early 2019

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: Having the best offensive profile in the minors makes you a pretty good dynasty prospect, it turns out. We usually try to write more for the better prospects, but with Vladito there’s no need to overthink it. Expect a decade-plus of top-10 first baseman finishes, and consider any years of 3B eligibility as added bonuses.


    2. Bo Bichette, SS
    DOB: 3/5/1998
    Height/Weight: 6’0”, 200 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted 66th overall in the 2016 draft, Lakewood HS (St. Petersburg, FL); signed for $1.1 million.
    Previous Ranking(s): #10 (Org)
    2017 Stats: .323/.379/.463, 4 HR, 10 SB in 40 games at High-A Dunedin; .384/.448/.623, 10 HR, 12 SB in 70 games at Low-A Lansing

    The Good: Bichette, like his teammate Guerrero, torched two leagues this season to put him in discussion for one of the top prospects in baseball. The hit tool improved by leaps and bounds from what I projected for it out of high school, with it now potentially being his loudest tool, which is scary considering his other tools. The raw power is 70, and it isn’t just 5 o’clock power—the power plays in games, as Bichette uses the whole field to dish out punishment. The arm is plus (or better in some cases), allowing it to play all over the infield. A better runner than you would think, Bichette gets out of the box quickly, forcing infielders to make quick decisions.

    The Bad: The arm plays all over the infield, even if you aren’t sure where he plays long-term. While he wouldn’t be bad at the six, it wouldn’t be flashy and would be frustrating to watch over time. His footwork is inconsistent, his throws tend to sail high, and doesn’t always make the best decisions. It is more likely he plays at either 3B or 2B, depending on organizational need. The hit tool still has question marks, especially as pitchers sequence him better and exploit his holes. While not a free-swinger, he isn’t exactly known for his plate discipline.

    The Role:

    OFP 70—All-Star player in the infield
    Likely 55—Above-average regular in the infield

    The Risks: Not a lot, still need to see him against Double-A arms. Still has some uncertainty about where he plays on the dirt, prima-donna attitude, plate discipline questions. —Steve Givarz

    Major league ETA: 2019

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: Yes, please. Bichette isn’t yet the top-10 overall dynasty prospect that some people are treating him as, but he’s not too far off from that distinction. The hope is he at least sticks at the six for a few years early in his career, but even if that’s not the case he’d have top-7 upside at second or third base. There is still some risk here, but the potential for a solid-to-good average, 25 homers and a handful of steals make Bichette well worth the gamble.

    3. Anthony Alford, OF
    DOB: 7/20/1994
    Height/Weight: 6’1”, 205 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted in the 3rd round of the 2012 draft, Petal HS (Petal, MS); signed for $750,000.
    Previous Ranking(s): #2 (Org), #93 (Top 101)
    2017 Stats: .125/.125/.250, 0 HR, 0 SB in 4 games at major-league level; .333/.385/.417, 0 HR, 0 SB in 3 games at Triple-A Buffalo; .310/.406/.429, 5 HR, 18 SB in 68 games at Double-A New Hampshire; .143/.182/.143, 0 HR, 1 SB in 6 games at High-A Dunedin


    The Good: Up-the-middle tools in abundance. Alford’s got them. He’s a plus runner with a potential plus glove in center. He’s built like a spread option quarterback, which…well…he was. There is premium athleticism here. You can throw plus hit on the profile too if you are so inclined, and you can’t quibble with the approach regardless. The swing is geared for the opposite field, but if that ever changes it sure feels like there will be plus power to the pull side. If not, well, the athletic tools are so good it might not matter,

    The Bad: Alford just can’t stay on the field. He’s topped out at 107 games played in his pro career. Last year it was concussion issues. This year it was hamate issues. It’s always been something, even since he focused full-time on baseball. He’s never really hit for power despite a body built to hit 20 bombs.

    The Role:

    OFP 60—Above-average every day center fielder
    Likely 50—Average every day center fielder

    The Risks: The tools and baseball skills are all there. It is just a matter of staying healthy for Alford. So, high I guess.

    Major league ETA: Debuted in 2017

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: Alford is a prime prospect fatigue candidate — we’ve heard about him for quite a while now, and you can bet that some less savvy owners are growing impatient. Alford still has the upside of a speed-based OF3 if healthy, and while that’s a big if, it’s probably worth seeing if the Alford owner in your league is willing to sell low. He’ll be an easy top-101 guy once more.

    4. Nate Pearson, RHP
    DOB: 8/20/1996
    Height/Weight: 6’6”, 245 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted 28th overall in the 2017 draft, College of Central Florida (Ocala, FL); signed for $2.4529 million.
    Previous Ranking(s): N/A
    2017 Stats: 0.95 ERA, 2.40 DRA, 19 IP, 6 H, 5 BB, 24 K in 7 games at short-season Vancouver


    The Good: This is a big fastball from a big, BIG dude, one that was sitting upper 90s, clearing triple-digits, and even touching 102 in games. Oh yeah, he throws strikes with that as well, making him a very tough guy to square up. Later in the year, the consistency of his offspeed improved dramatically. The curveball was sharper at 81-84, looking like a future plus offering. The change was high 80s/low 90s, showing good velo separation and feel for the offering. This is a big, durable frame who has worked hard to get his body in good shape, so while this leaves him without much projection, he looks the part of a durable workhorse.

    The Bad: The delivery isn’t the smoothest, with everyone’s favorite head whack and a lack of consistency due to all the momentum he generates. These are fixable, but it may take a while. While the fastball is fast, it can get flat and is more hittable than you might think. In longer starts the velo is “only” 94-96, instead of the 80 fastball he showed this summer. The offspeed is still pretty inconsistent and only flashes instead of sits.

    The Role:

    OFP 55—Those really good Michael Pineda seasons (minus the injuries)
    Likely 45—Those really good Jim Johnson seasons (with more strikeouts)

    The Risks: Hittable fastball, inconsistency of off-speed, Year 1 in development.

    Major league ETA: 2020

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: You wish there was less risk of Pearson ending up in the bullpen, of course, but for a guy who has absolutely no buzz in dynasty circles right now, Pearson has a decent upside. He’s not in the top-101 discussion yet, but he’d be in the top half of that big, meaty group of 20 or 30 potential SP5/6s that occupies the next 100.

    5. Connor Greene, RHP
    DOB: 4/4/1995
    Height/Weight: 6’3”, 185 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted in the 7th round of the 2013 draft, Santa Monica HS (Santa Monica, CA); signed for $100,000.
    Previous Ranking(s): #4 (Org)
    2017 Stats: 5.29 ERA, 6.26 DRA, 132 ⅔ IP, 141 H, 83 BB, 92 K in 26 games at Double-A New Hampshire

    The Good: The velocity stands out, reaching triple digits from an easy delivery, and sitting 94-98 mph throughout his starts. Greene’s fastball is lively with above-average movement in the mid-90s, though it will become true when he reaches back for peak velocity. The changeup is a second strong pitch with arm-speed deception and good fade. He shows a willingness to throw his changeup in any count, even starting at-bats with the pitch and occasionally going back-to-back effectively. At times, Greene shows an ability to consistently throw his fastball and changeup for strikes, maximizing their effectiveness.

    The Bad: Greene has a long way to go in terms of controlling and commanding his arsenal, even going so far as completely losing the strike zone for extended stretches. He is a good enough athlete to project progress with control/command, but the strides have not been there to date. He shows two breaking ball variations with a curveball in the mid- to upper-70s and a harder, tighter slider that sits in the 85-87 mph range. Feel for both breaking balls lags as he continues to search for an ability to consistently spin them, though there are hints the curveball could improve in shorter stints where he airs it out.

    The Role:

    OFP 55—Solid closer or no. 4 starter; either way he ends up walking more than you would like
    Likely 45—Setup reliever who needs a breaking ball to close

    The Risks: Breaking ball and command profile development.

    Major league ETA: Late 2018

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: Oh my god, just flip the changeup and the breaker and Connor Greene is Joe Kelly.
    6.Logan Warmoth, SS
    DOB: 9/6/1995
    Height/Weight: 6’0”, 190 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted 22nd overall in the 2017 draft, University of North Carolina (Chapel Hill, NC); signed for $2.8202 million.
    Previous Ranking(s): N/A
    2017 Stats: .306/.356/.419, 1 HR, 5 SB in 39 games at short-season Vancouver; .273/.304/.409, 1 HR, 1 SB in complex-level GCL

    The Good: He’s a very polished, well-rounded middle-infield prospect who has a history of performing in a major conference. There’s potential for a plus hit tool, and he continued to hit for average in his pro debut after doing so in college. His defensive actions are solid, his arm is accurate, and he has a chance to stay at shortstop up the ladder. He’s a sneaky good base runner despite not being a burner down the lines. In general, he gets a lot of good marks for instincts and skills that coagulate to cause the profile to play up more than it otherwise might.

    The Bad: Notice that we mostly avoided discussing the actual tools above. There’s a lot of numbers within a half-grade of average in the profile. There just isn’t much elite physicality here; no obvious standout carrying physical tool presents itself, which means he’s going to have to hit some or really pick it. He’s only in the “probably” bucket for long-term role as a shortstop and could end up at second or third.

    The Role:

    OFP 55—Starting MLB shortstop
    Likely 45—Fringe starting middle-infielder or good utility player

    The Risks: Hit tool reliant middle-infield profiles are riskier than they look; take a peek at just how quickly Kevin Newman fell apart if you want to see how it can go bad. Of course, Scott Kingery is the bird on the other shoulder pointing out the positive risk. It can go a lot of ways as a pro, even if it seems like there’s a high-floor out of the draft. —Jarrett Seidler


    Major league ETA: Late 2019

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: Warmoth has *some* value because the odds indicate that he’ll stick at shortstop and, as a college bat, he likely won’t take forever to reach the majors. The offensive upside is rather modest, though, meaning Warmoth needs to keep hitting a he climbs the ladder if wants to earn a dynasty ranking commensurate with his 70-grade name.
    7. Danny Jansen, C
    DOB: 4/15/1995
    Height/Weight: 6’2”, 225 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted in the 16th round of the 2013 draft, Appleton West HS (Appleton, WI); signed for $100,000.
    Previous Ranking(s): N/A
    2017 Stats: .328/.423/.552, 3 HR, 0 SB in 21 games at Triple-A Buffalo; .291/.378/.419, 2 HR, 1 SB in 52 games in Double-A New Hampshire; .369/.422/.541, 5 HR, 0 SB in 31 games at High-A Dunedin

    The Good: Jansen had one of the more impressive breakouts anywhere in the minors in 2017, hitting his way up from an organizational catcher who pitchers liked to a legitimate top catching prospect. He’s always gotten high marks for defense, especially in receiving and pitcher-handling, and before the 2017 season he received much-needed vision correction and recovered from lingering wrist and hand injuries. All of a sudden, he started seeing the ball at the plate much better, and started showing impressive bat-to-ball ability and plate discipline. He jumped two levels and was added to the 40-man after the season; having jumped Reese McGuire and Max Pentecost on the org depth chart, he’s now only a Russell Martin injury or someone tiring of Luke Maile from The Show.

    The Bad: This is not only the first year he’s really hit anywhere, it’s the first year he was even handling a full-time playing load; he was perilously close to being tagged a minor-league backup org catcher type. The power is somewhat limited. Really, there aren’t any obvious standout physical tools here, which limits the upside some. He’s just good at baseball.

    The Role:

    OFP 55—A long-term starting catcher
    Likely 45—A long-term second division or strong backup catcher

    The Risks: Sometimes these sorts of breakouts, even when they have an obvious narrative reason, don’t always stick. Whenever you’re talking about a guy who hit an empty .218 in High-A just a year ago and didn’t show any signs that a huge breakout was coming, it’s possible he’ll give some of the gains back. Even still, getting on the 40-man with his defensive skills probably leaves a long career as a third catcher even if most if the offense poofs. —Jarrett Seidler

    Major league ETA: 2018, as needed

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: Your guess is as good as ours. If the swing changes are real, Jansen is a catcher who can hit in the upper minors—that’s a big deal. If it was a fluke, he’s basically useless for our purposes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    8.Sean Reid-Foley, RHP
    DOB: 8/30/1995
    Height/Weight: 6’3”, 220 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted 49th overall in the 2014 MLB Draft, Sandalwood HS (Jacksonville, FL); signed for $1.1288 million.
    Previous Ranking(s): #1 (Org)
    2017 Stats: 5.09 ERA, 5.01 DRA, 132 ⅔ IP, 145 H, 53 BB, 122 K in 27 games at Double-A New Hampshire

    The Good: The fastball is still a good pitch for him, sitting 91-94 and touching 97 with quality sinking action. The curve and slider still flash. He’s still built like a horse and I suppose projectable, although that word starts to lose importance once you’re a bad Double-A pitcher.

    The Bad: You’ll note a lot of “still” up there, because there really isn’t anything new and good to say here. Double-A provides a pretty good test for most pitching prospects and Reid-Foley failed miserably, making none of the progressions in command or secondary stuff he would’ve needed to survive. He was dreadful, gave up long balls by the bushel despite both a scouting and prior statistical profile that pointed the other way, and got shelled out of games early enough that getting something resembling a full look wasn’t always easy. Nothing about the underlying profile really changed, but that’s a problem when you’re dealing with a projectable prep pitcher that’s failing to project.

    The Role:

    OFP 55—Mid-rotation starter or good reliever
    Likely 45—Back-of-the-rotation starter or decent reliever

    The Risks: We’re still projecting him a bit, even on the likely outcome. If the change doesn’t come around, the command doesn’t improve at all, and neither breaking ball sharpens, he’s going to be an up-and-down arm instead of a long-term member of a major-league staff. —Jarrett Seidler

    Major league ETA: Late-2018 or 2019


    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: I’d actually have some interest in Reid-Foley if he does stick in the rotation someday, but we can’t be sure that’s going to happen yet. He’d probably sneak in a top-200 for me because I like him more than I like most guys with his profile due to the remaining upside, but there’s no need to go crazy.
    9.Ryan Borucki, LHP
    DOB: 3/31/1994
    Height/Weight: 6’4”, 175 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted in the 15th round of the 2012 MLB Draft, Mundelein HS (Mundelein, IL); signed for $426,000.
    Previous Ranking(s): Others of Note
    2017 Stats: 0.00 ERA, 3.09 DRA, 6 IP, 6 H, 1 BB, 6 K in 1 game at Triple-A Buffalo; 1.94 ERA, 1.48 DRA, 46 ⅓ IP, 31 H, 8 BB, 42 K in 7 games at Double-A New Hampshire; 3.58 ERA, 1.89 DRA, 98 IP, 95 H, 27 BB, 109 K in 19 games at High-A Dunedin

    The Good: Borucki, when healthy, checks off a lot of boxes. He has projection, left-handedness, athleticism, and two high-quality pitches. The fastball is a plus-to-better offering, sitting 93-95, touching 96 in starts. He controls the offering well, throwing it away to right-handed hitters and going under the hands of lefties. The change is arguably the most effective offering though. At 80-81, it acts almost as a split-finger, showing large velo separation and late drop. He is comfortable throwing it to both sides, in either fastball counts, or when he needs a punchout.

    The Bad: The important part from up there is “when healthy.” Borucki had Tommy John in 2012, missing all of that and 2013. He missed most of 2015 with various elbow and shoulder injuries as well. While he is wiry and “projectable”, he will be 24 by next season, so he probably won’t be growing that much more. There is a slider here, but it is a below-average offering. Coming in at 78-81 with large early break. While it can flash average, it flashes less often than it sits. You are worried about a left-hander who will struggle to throw a breaking ball to LHH.

    The Role:

    OFP 50—Back-end starter

    Likely 45—A lefty who doesn’t project to get lefties out is a weird bullpen role. Maybe a swingman?

    The Risks: Ability to stay healthy, lack of a quality breaking ball against left-handers, older-ish arm. There is a lot more in here if he can stay healthy. —Steve Givarz

    Major league ETA: 2018

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: Too many injuries and too modest an upside. Goodnight, sweet prince.
    10.T.J. Zeuch, RHP
    DOB: 8/1/1995
    Height/Weight: 6’7”, 225 lbs.
    Bats/Throws: R/R
    Drafted/Acquired: Drafted 21st overall in the 2016 draft, University of Pittsburgh (Pittsburgh, PA); signed for $2.175 million.
    Previous Ranking(s): #7 (Org)
    2017 Stats: 3.38 ERA, 2.51 DRA, 58 ⅔ IP, 63 H, 17 BB, 46 K in 12 games at High-A Dunedin; 5.14 ERA, 4.14 DRA, 7 IP, 9 H, 2 BB, 5 K in 3 games at complex-level GCL

    The Good: The tall righty has a solid-if-unspectacular repertoire, and he repeats his delivery just well enough to command it despite his long levers. The foundation is a sinking plus fastball (91-93 mph) with late two-plane life that produces weak contact and high ground-ball rates. When on, the pitch is especially effective against righties. He pairs it with both a curve and slider, the former of which projects as the better pitch, generating hard 11-5 break when he stays on top of it. The 60 fastball and 55 curveball, plus his size and athleticism are good building blocks for the rotation. Zeuch will need to continue developing his secondary pitches, particularly the cambio that currently flashes average but is inconsistent.

    The Bad: Zeuch has enough command, but it will always be a challenge for him to consistently hit his spots, particularly with his secondary offerings. I’m bullish on a 60-55-50 FB/CB/CH future repertoire (and below-average slider), but when the command goes, Zeuch not only walks batters but leaves pitches up and out over the plate. Overall, this limits his ultimate ceiling.

    The Role:

    OFP 50—No.4 starter
    Likely 45—No. 5 starter

    The Risks: It’s really just the command profile. If he repeats, he’s a rotation guy. If he doesn’t he’ll head to the pen.

    Major league ETA: mid-2019

    Ben Carsley’s Fantasy Take: Like a more boring Reid-Foley with a lower floor, so pass.


    The Next Ten (in alphabetical order):

    Lourdes Gurriel, IF/LF, Double-A New HampshireSigned for $22 million over seven years, the lithe Cuban is a bat-first prospect with a smooth, line-drive swing that leads to frequent contact. However, Gurriel’s minimal lower-half engagement deadens his power and lessens the quality of contact, particularly to the opposite field. Defensively, he split time between 2nd and SS in 2017, but his footwork and quickness are stretched in the middle infield, pushing him to a tweener profile, lacking the power to profile as a regular at 3B or LF (where he played some in Cuba). There is appeal as a potential platoon or solid hitting bench bat with some defensive versatility.

    Jon Harris, RHP, Double-A New Hampshire
    Harris is a generic Double-A college dude starter. He maybe shouldn’t be. He’s a four-pitch arm that is less than the sum of the stuff. The fastball is a 55 if you just look at the radar gun, but once you factor in his below-average command, it plays more like average or even fringe-average. All three of his secondaries can flash average on the right day, but the slider is too often flat, the curve is pretty when going well but too often misplaced, and the change is too often firm. Like Reid-Foley, he just wasn’t fooling anyone at Double-A this season, and attempts to rework his delivery midseason didn’t help matters a ton. There’s still a chance for a fourth starter here and he’ll get a shot to blow the fastball and curve out in relief before all is said and done, but this isn’t exactly what you want from a polished college arm. —Jarrett Seidler

    Zachary Jackson, RHP, High-A Dunedin
    Drafted in the third round in the 2016 draft, Jackson was initially a starter at Arkansas, but has flourished following a transition to the bullpen. He has a large 6-foot-4, 215-pound frame with premium arm strength and a unique breaker. This is a mid-to-high-80s curveball with extreme, hard depth and action. From Jackson’s high-three-quarters slot it has true 12/6 shape and hard action, almost like a slider. This is a plus offering—it has shown even better for me at times—but his lack of control makes it inconsistent. When the fastball is on, it can be a truly unhittable pitch. The fastball velocity is hard as well, coming in from 93-96 and touching 97, although it can be a bit true, and when not located properly gets hit hard. Jackson does offer some intrigue as a multi-inning reliever, given that most of his appearances lasted more than one inning. There are some concerns, a lack of consistency with his messy delivery, lack of command at times, a hittable fastball. These don’t ignore the fact that Jackson still offers plenty of intrigue and is a potential fast-mover. —Steve Givarz

    Justin Maese, RHP, Low-A Lansing
    Another owner of a big fastball, Maese pumps it in up to the mid-90s from a tough three-quarters armslot, and pairs it with a pitch right on the slider/cutter continuum that we’ve graded as a potential plus offering in the past. As a reader, you can probably recite the rest of this report from repetition by this point in the prospect season; he needs work on the changeup, and combining that with the armslot and typical young pitcher command woes, he’s often projected as a likely future reliever. His 2017 was troubled by a shoulder injury that lingered, with a few trips on and off the DL in the summer months, which further solidifies the reliever tag. Check back once games start to see whether he’s healthy and what it looks like. —Jarrett Seidler

    Tim Mayza, LHP, Toronto Blue Jays
    Velocity is everywhere now. We yawn at a lefty sitting 93-97. We probably shouldn’t. Mayza is a bit older than you’d like as a prospect writer, sure. He seems more hittable than he should be, absolutely. He also touches the high-90s with a 90 mph slider. As a lefty. His stuff misses bats. We’ve written a lot in this space about reliever prospects. God knows we will write a lot more before we are done. Mayza is a potential 7/7 reliever. He pitches with his left hand. Yes, the command profile is an issue We are jaded. We should not be this jaded.

    Elieser Medrano, RHP, Complex-level GCL
    Signed in July, 2016 for $15,000 Medrano had a velocity bump after signing and got a lot of buzz around the Dunedin complex. Standing 6-foot-2, 180 pounds, Medrano is already somewhat physical, but still offers a moderate amount of projection. The fastball comes from a smooth, clean arm action with above-average arm speed. It came in at 91-94, touching 95, but he lacked feel for the zone with it, causing it to play down from its pure velocity. You can project for improved gains based on the smoothness of his delivery and more repetitions. The slider showed hard action with quality depth and action, but like with the heater he struggled with the feel and played below its effectiveness. While without a changeup, this is still a 19-year-old with promising fastball/slider offering, so he could be an intriguing starter prospect, or a “fastball/slider guy reliever”. —Steve Givarz

    Edward Olivares, OF, High-A Dunedin
    Hidden by the noise of the monster seasons put together by Vladito and Bichette was Olivares. In his first full season of minor league ball, the 21-year-old displayed five tools that look to play close to major-league average. Like with many young, low minors prospects, the swing has some noise and there are gains that need to be made in terms of pitch recognition. However, above-average bat speed and a frame that has room for growth give hope for the swing. The carrying tools are speed and defense. On the bases, he’s a fluid runner that displays a second gear when needed with his plus raw speed. That said speed allows for a lot of ground to be covered in the outfield and Olivares has shown the ability to play all three positions. The arm is average for right but would play above average in center and left. This versatility combined with speed give a floor of a second division major league outfielder with a chance to become above average if the bat continues to advance. —Nathan Graham

    Max Pentecost, C?, High-A Dunedin
    Everyone likes a good redemption story. Pentecost struggled with terrible shoulder injuries after being drafted 11th-overall in 2014, missing the entire 2015 season and only being able to DH in 2016. He was still more a DH than anything else in 2017, but he did get in 20 games behind the plate and 22 at first, and most importantly he was healthy while doing so, even picking up extra playing time in the Arizona Fall League. He’s hit reasonably well at the A-ball levels the past two years considering everything else going on, although realistically he’s been old for the levels. We’re mostly mentioning him here because it has the makings of a nice story and the underlying hitting and receiving tools seem mostly unaffected by his long layoff. We’ll learn a lot more about whether there’s a future here in 2018, as he’ll get both a shot to hit upper-level pitching and to hold up under a larger catching load. —Jarrett Seidler

    Rowdy Tellez, 1B, Triple-A Buffalo
    When Large Adult Sons don’t hit, it can get a little ugly. Formerly a personal favorite as a power-hitting first base prospect, Tellez has always honestly had more name and fantasy value than real prospect value because of limitations on his defense, athleticism, and hit tool (a grooved swing can only take you so far), and he cratered in his first shot at Triple-A. We’ll stipulate that he played the entire season at 22 and had moved somewhat quickly before that, and if we gave up on every player we liked who bombed out at one level while moving up quickly we’d have given up on a lot of future stars. There’s still real raw power here that’s shown up in games before, and at least he’s left-handed and in the DH league so those sorts of avenues are open to him. But this isn’t the easiest profile in the world to stick in the majors with these days—25 dinger power is no longer really a carrying tool this far over on the defensive spectrum—and Tellez really needs to consolidate things in 2018 to get back on track. —Jarrett Seidler

    Richard Urena, SS, Toronto Blue Jays
    Urena received a late-season look in the majors after an up-and-down 2017 with Double-A New Hampshire. His approach at the plate is rather inconsistent; he’ll often chase pitches out of the zone, and he doesn’t walk all that often. The switch-hitting 21-year-old still shows better power from the left side of the plate, and there is above-average bat speed to write home about. But that power is relatively limited, and if the hit tool ends up being a pedestrian 45, he’ll have to be an outstanding defender to stick on a roster. Luckily for Urena, he does show above-average range and has a plus arm that could stick at shortstop. He did get some late-season looks at second base in Double-A, but was primarily at shortstop when he did get to Toronto in September. His struggles in the field come when he tries to rush a throw, but he’s proving to be a better fielder than in years past. However, at this point, with not much left to project at the plate, and another guy in the org (Bichette) looking like a potential option at short, Urena’s stock has taken a hit over the last year. He’ll look to rebuild that stock a bit, likely in Triple-A, in 2018. —Victor Filoromo

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    Felipe Castaneda, RHP, complex-level GCL
    Signed in November 2016, Castaneda was one of the youngest players to appear with the GCL Squad, playing all of last season at 17. While not the biggest or most physical, Castaneda is still frail, offering a lot of projection given his age and the ease of his delivery. The go to pitch for Castaneda is his changeup, which is odd to say for a 17 (soon to be 18) year old. We are usually talking about some form of “snapdragon”, “hard slurve”, “hard breaker” than we are to boast about a changeup. This poses an interesting conundrum. The change is good though, coming in at 81-83, he shows impressive feel and comfort with the pitch, using it to strikeout both lefties and righties alike. He even shows advanced sequencing with it, throwing it in fastball counts, which easily fooled hitters who sold out for the fastball. The problem is there isn’t much of a breaking ball here, there is a “curve” but it is in the nascent stage of development currently. The fastball is a fringe-average offering at present, not the plus heater you would like to see at this stage. There is hope in the future, he can throw a cutter, maybe it will eventually be a slider, and the body can improve physically, which can improve his velocity across the board. —Steve Givarz


    ***

    A second opinion: Is Vladimir Guerrero Jr. an OFP 80?

    So we’ve broken the seal here at Baseball Prospectus this season on ranking position players as 8s. Previously the near-sole domain of Lucas Giolito when he was actually good, we’ve already crowned Ronald Acuna as an 8 in our Braves list, and we might’ve also done so with Gleyber Torres had he remained prospect-eligible without missing the second-half of the season with an elbow injury. We’re tagging Vladito as a 7 here, though, and given that he’s right there with Acuna, that might be low.

    Essentially, Vlad is being dinged because he’s probably going to move from third to first, given his large frame and less-than-worldbeating defensive abilities. I think that’s a reasonable projection to make, although he’s sneakily athletic and throws well enough that it’s not a sure shot. What I think is a sure shot is that this dude is a uniquely rare hitter for his age. Playing the entire season at 18 years old, he hit for big average at both levels of full-season A-ball while walking more than he struck out, with the type of polish you just don’t see at his age. He only hit for moderate power, but almost everyone agrees he projects to plus-plus power or even better, and it’s hard to imagine he won’t tap into it with that quality of approach and natural hitting ability. We rightly marvel at what Acuna did relative to his own age, but remember that Guerrero is about 16 months younger than Acuna, and he’s going to start 2018 at Double-A.

    Here’s the other thing: we project in the explanation of the grade that Vlad would be a .300/.400/.500 first baseman. Let’s say that really is the projection; I would argue that is an 80 OFP. That’s basically Anthony Rizzo’s average year, or Paul Goldschmidt with a touch less power, like he’d probably have in a less-power friendly environment than Arizona. Those guys are pretty close to 8s if not actually so—your mileage may vary on what actually constitutes an 8, but they’re absolute stars and the best first basemen in the game. If you give Guerrero any sort of further power upside or third-base ability past that, which I think are both plausible although not slam dunks, the case becomes even clearer: this could be one of the best players in baseball. —Jarrett Seidler

    ***

    Top Talents 25 and Under (born 4/1/1992 or after):
    1.Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
    2.Roberto Osuna
    3.Bo Bichette
    4.Aaron Sanchez
    5.Anthony Alford
    6.Nate Pearson
    7.Conner Greene
    8.Logan Warmoth
    9. Danny Jansen
    10.Sean Reid-Foley

    As one of baseball’s oldest teams in 2017 at an average age of 29.7-years-old, it shouldn’t be overly surprising that the Blue Jays 25U list is more prospect than major leaguers. Ross Atkins and Mark Shapiro’s work to get younger and more athletic has borne plenty of fruit on the farm, but the big league club is still a little barren. That said, there is still plenty of room both at the top and the bottom of the list for discussion involving players who have lost their rookie eligibility.

    One of the toughest calls was where to place Roberto Osuna. In an argument for the top spot, we have a 23-year-old closer who just put up the best season of his career by peripherals with 2.1 WARP and a 46.6 DRA- versus teenage prospects with a combined zero games above High-A. On the other side, Osuna is only a reliever and Guerrero Jr. and Bichette, while young, are still considered two of the better prospects in all of baseball.

    In the end, the decision fell in the middle. Guerrero holds down the top spot for the combination of the elite ceiling and the higher floor with his bat. Even if he moves across the diamond, he should still provide more value than Osuna. But the young closer still comes in at the number two spot. While his ERA was elevated, Osuna’s DRA was the fourth-lowest in baseball among all pitchers and third among relievers—even if we drop the qualifying threshold as low as 15 innings pitched. With the way baseball is changing in both use and valuation of relievers, a pitcher at the head of the class has tremendous worth and needs to be ranked accordingly.

    As for Bichette, the slight concerns about his hit tool against better pitching combined with the defensive questions slide him just below Osuna into the no. 3 spot.

    Of course while Osuna was tough to place, things were even more difficult when it came to last year’s no. 1 who lost much of the season due to recurring blister problems. The biggest concern with Aaron Sanchez isn’t just the repeated issues, which eventually led to a torn ligament in his finger and ended his season, but that he also performed quite poorly even when he was able to take the mound—his 6.96 DRA in 36 innings was nearly double his 2016 figure. The sample size is small enough that it could be somewhat forgiven if he were clear of the injury issues, but with his health still in question and the other risks already present from his jump in workload in 2016, it was just too difficult to rank the former AL ERA-leader higher than fourth.

    There were no hard choices from five to ten, but had the list gone to 11 (like everything should, really) there is room for debate. Last year’s number five player, Dalton Pompey, and recent trade acquisition, Teoscar Hernández, are both eligible for this list but no longer prospect-eligible. While Pompey eliminated himself from consideration with his lost season, there was an interesting battle between Hernández and Ryan Borucki (the no. 9 prospect) for the next man up.

    Hernández wowed the club and fans alike with a September performance that saw him smash eight home runs and post a TAv of .302 with a .602 slugging percentage. At the same time, he also struck out in 37.9 percent of his plate appearances. Both the power and the contact issues are real, but he’s ready to help out in the major leagues right now as, at worst, a platoon player with speed and the ability to cover all three outfield spots in a pinch. That floor combined with the upside for a little more earn the former Astros’ prospect the edge over Borucki, whose health concerns and the lack of a breaking ball push him off even a Spinal Tap-sized list. —Joshua Howsam
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    The Top Ten:

    Vladimir Guerrero, Jr, 3B
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    Anthony Alford, OF
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    Righthander Patrick Murphy's career has been an exercise in patience. The 2013 third-round pick logged a career-high 106.2 innings in 2017 after myriad injuries slowed his ascent.

    Tommy John surgery wiped out Murphy’s senior year of high school in Chandler, Ariz., and he then endured a string of surgeries during his first three pro seasons. The litany of injuries that nearly stopped his career before it started includes a stress fracture in his arm, thoracic outlet surgery and an operation to move a nerve in his elbow.

    But the 22-year-old's perseverance started being rewarded over the past two seasons, when he returned the mound and showed some of the promise that prompted the Blue Jays to invest $500,000 in him out of the draft.

    Where his progress leads him in 2018 is an interesting question, one that makes him a player to keep an eye on.

    “It was a long three, four years," Murphy said. “We weren't sure we were going to figure out what necessarily it was and get it taken care of. Finally, after a few surgeries, we got it taken care of and ever since it's been good. I'm happy with the way everything worked out. It was long, it was tough, but I stuck with it. I trusted them and it worked out.

    “We've moved on past that, we're trying to go forward and reach Toronto.”

    Murphy finished the 2017 season with two starts at high Class A Dunedin after recording a 2.94 ERA in 15 starts at low Class A Lansing. A hamstring injury cost him about seven weeks near midseason, but he added 10 innings during instructional league, positioning him for a fuller workload next season.

    A continued point of emphasis for Murphy will be working on a changeup that will give him a third offering to play off his low- to mid-90s fastball and power curveball that he describes as “my go-to ahead in the count."

    The changeup is “obviously still a work in progress," but he feels learning to trust it and use it more often last season was his biggest stride on the mound.

    “All I can ask is that I stay healthy after missing so much time,” Murphy said.

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