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    Joe Biden' speech was excellent; he sounded very sincere as though the speech was just a few talking points instead of a scripted speech.

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    The response to the same question on Reddit from Obama and Trump, tells you everything you need to know


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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    So Joe Biden kind of nailed his speech at the DNC Convention. I wish he had run
    Biden has alway been good on the offensive. He has a way of demeaning his opponents without sounding mean/arrogant. He communicates well on a base level. His VP debates against Palin were an incredible display of restraint vs an intellectually and substance lacking match. He could have destroyed her but held back to not look like a bully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCecil View Post
    Biden has alway been good on the offensive. He has a way of demeaning his opponents without sounding mean/arrogant. He communicates well on a base level. His VP debates against Palin were an incredible display of restraint vs an intellectually and substance lacking match. He could have destroyed her but held back to not look like a bully.
    To be fair, any person who isn't a mouth breather would be able to successfully debate Palin and make her feel unfit for the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bendera3 View Post
    To be fair, any person who isn't a mouth breather would be able to successfully debate Palin and make her feel unfit for the job.
    Yeah but Cecil makes a good point that when you have an opponent so weak the trap is to go after them so hard that you make the audience pity them and see you negatively. You have to let them bury themselves.

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    Motherfuckers....don't you know Statman has been trolling you for, like, the last 15 pages? He says a one-liner about the DNC convention being in meltdown mode, or Hillary's emails proving she needs to be in cuffs, or voice mails left by random chumps vaguely associated with the DNC and you guys are all up in arms for pages and pages and pages. If you don't like what he's saying, put him on ignore or just ignore him. It's like you guys (Canadians who can't vote in November) are so personally offended by the opinion of another Canadian (who also can't vote in November) who thinks Hillary and the Democratic Party are slightly more seedy than Donald and the Republicans.

    And Statman, you've been saying you've been right about Trump and the direction the U.S. election has gone from day one. And who knows, maybe you'll be right and the DNC will implode and Trump will win in a bigger sweep than Reagan. But unless you have money on this or something, who gives a shit? Have you never been right before in your life that you have to take such solace in being right this time and tease a bunch of people who like the same baseball team as you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post

    Also, as an aside, I've softened on Trudeau. I still think he's a huge pussy and not a great leader but at least he's probably better than Harper. Hopefully the NDP puts up a candidate that isn't a crazy regressive like Mulcair next time so I feel better about voting for them. The American circus should make us feel better about our own system.
    I'm surprised you say this since Mulcair seems like a politician more up your alley than any of the other leaders. He's about as reasonable and centrist as you'll get for an NDP leader. Are you saying he's too left-wing or right-wing? If the former, welcome to the Conservative Party of Canada! If the latter, enjoy reading the bio of Peggy Nash and the other ragtags looking to run for leadership.


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    The NDP is about to be hijacked by the Leap Manifesto idiots after which they will no doubt be turned back into the national irrelevancy they were under Alexa McDonough so don't get your hopes up about them.
    I'm about to go on rant mode which is probably a big waste of time because as Dr. Negative said the NDP is setting themselves up for political suicide, but this is some of the highlights of the leap manifesto:

    -Shifting swiftly away from fossil fuels so that Canada gets 100 per cent of its electricity from renewable resources within 20 years and is entirely weaned off fossil fuels by 2050.

    -Expand low-carbon sectors of the economy, such as caregiving, teaching, social work, the arts and public-interest media.

    -Declaring that “austerity – which has systematically attacked low-carbon sectors like education and health care while starving public transit and forcing reckless energy privatizations – is a fossilized form of thinking that has become a threat to life on earth.”

    -Paying for it all by ending fossil fuel subsidies, imposing financial transaction taxes, increasing resource royalties, hiking taxes on corporations and the wealthy, introducing a progressive carbon tax, and cutting military spending.


    Ok, so WTF? I'm 100% for Canada and the world weaning itself off of fossil fuels. Renewable energy can be the only way for our species to advance beyond the next 100 years. But technology isn't a "low-carbon" sector of the economy? Is it because the engineer drives to work while the starving artist is too poor to afford a car so he bikes to his job at Subway? I know CERN takes up a shitload of power right now but what humans learn there will help us save countless terawatts of power in the future.

    All they are doing is hiding a socialist agenda, a very bad socialist agenda, behind the veil of climate change by naming a bunch of industries they want to control and randomly and very stupidly calling them low carbon. Sure, let's create a bunch of cushy unionized government jobs so that every 4 year old is fully aware of what a transgendered person is before they can count to 10. Engineers and scientists? Who needs them...let's make sure money is thrown at theater actors and for more hit piece journalists at the CBC to make sure anyone with an opinion to the right of Mao is stomped out. Gotta make sure everyone who picks up a shitty, useless degree at university can find an overpaid, useless job!

    Austerity...that's such a WHITE MALE thing to be doing. Things like budgeting and spending within our means? Who cares about that, let's spend blindly instead then line up for money at a payday loan place.

    And how are they paying for this all? By taxing the high-cost oil industry which has already been put on life support as oil hovers around $40!

    Just a stupid, stupid plan and anyone who has an inkling of voting for the NDP needs to print out this message and put it on their wall until 2019, assuming the leap morons eventually do take control of the party....and with Mulcair's failed move to the center, my money is on them succeeding.

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    It's a plan to move Canada to an Etsy-based economy.

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    Watching the video, Trump means verbally attack when he says "hit".

    Can Trump maintain his sanity over the next 3-1/2 months; things won't get any easier for him on the campaign trail.

    Trump says he would like to 'hit' DNC speakers who disparaged him - http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/politi...nse/index.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by nextyear View Post
    Trump says he would like to 'hit' DNC speakers who disparaged him - http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/politi...nse/index.html
    Wow that's pretty much the same as actually hitting them
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    I know King isn't... little prick.

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    This will enrage many here but i think others will appreciate it. Its one of the most moving things i've ever seen in politics

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    Pretty much agree with everything here.

    PHILADELPHIA—“No more war” is a perfectly fine thing to chant, particularly at a convention of Democrats. “No more war” was a fine thing to chant at Leon Panetta, and it was a fine thing to chant at that general who spent far too long wiggling his pecs at America from the stage of the Democratic (!) National Convention on Thursday night, as the Democrats wrapped themselves in bunting. If chanting “No more war” is inconvenient for the party, that’s nothing next to the inconvenience inflicted on the rest of the world in 2003 by many of the Democrats in the room, including the woman who was being fêted here, Hillary Clinton. “No more war” was a fine thing to chant at her, too.

    “Sadly, still,” said MSNBC’s Brian Williams as Medal of Honor recipient Florent Groberg left the stage, “in the background you heard the faint voices of a few, the protesters chanting, ‘No more wars.’ ” This is the Brian Williams who developed his profound respect for the military after having survived an RPG attack at the Battle ofYeah My Ass. God, shut up. I will take the petulant and short-sighted Bernie or Busters any day over all the grave men wagging their fingers and telling them, no, no, that’s just not done. More Democrats should’ve been inconvenienced in 2003 and all the years since.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKat View Post
    Pretty much agree with everything here.

    PHILADELPHIA—“No more war” is a perfectly fine thing to chant, particularly at a convention of Democrats. “No more war” was a fine thing to chant at Leon Panetta, and it was a fine thing to chant at that general who spent far too long wiggling his pecs at America from the stage of the Democratic (!) National Convention on Thursday night, as the Democrats wrapped themselves in bunting. If chanting “No more war” is inconvenient for the party, that’s nothing next to the inconvenience inflicted on the rest of the world in 2003 by many of the Democrats in the room, including the woman who was being fêted here, Hillary Clinton. “No more war” was a fine thing to chant at her, too.

    “Sadly, still,” said MSNBC’s Brian Williams as Medal of Honor recipient Florent Groberg left the stage, “in the background you heard the faint voices of a few, the protesters chanting, ‘No more wars.’ ” This is the Brian Williams who developed his profound respect for the military after having survived an RPG attack at the Battle ofYeah My Ass. God, shut up. I will take the petulant and short-sighted Bernie or Busters any day over all the grave men wagging their fingers and telling them, no, no, that’s just not done. More Democrats should’ve been inconvenienced in 2003 and all the years since.



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    I disagree completely.

    The problem is most of the hardcore Bernie delegates come from protest politics and almost complettely disavow traditional electoral politics, these are the people who wear masks and protest at a G7 convention but won't in actual elections.

    When you choose to be a part of conventional electoral politics you agree to respect its traditions, norms and rules. And part of that is not booing the nominee that was chosen, not jeering and shouting down speakers you disagree with. There are free speech zones outside the convention, that's where protest politics belong.

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    Another dictator comes out firmly in support of Trump, is that number 5 or 6? Can't keep track anymore
    US senators Chris Coons and Adam Schiff were visiting the southern African country to discuss wildlife trafficking when a request for a meeting with the interior minister turned into a sit down with the president, according to an interview with Politico this week.
    According to Coons and Schiff, the discussion turned tense when Mugabe asked why the US insists on sanctioning Zimbabwe. The senators and their delegation listed reasons why the sanctions have remained in place—the US has sanctioned the country since 2002 after reports of election abuse and human rights violations. Mugabe has held on to power by repressing his rivals as well as the public.
    After an awkward silence, Mugabe said, “Once [Trump] is your president, you’ll wish you’d been friendlier to me,” according to Coons’ retelling of the encounter.
    http://qz.com/745601/zimbabwes-rober...mp-presidency/

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmrch View Post
    This will enrage many here but i think others will appreciate it. Its one of the most moving things i've ever seen in politics
    Operative words: "we believe in American democracy". I don't have a problem with any Muslim who believes in the democratic principles our countries are founded on. I want Canada to grab as many secular Turks as possible during this current purge who I'm sure can make a great contribution to our nation. I have a problem with those who want to replace democracy with religious fundamentalism. For the record neither the United States nor Canada has a significant domestic problem with this latter ideology, unlike European countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Negative View Post
    Operative words: "we believe in American democracy". I don't have a problem with any Muslim who believes in the democratic principles our countries are founded on. I want Canada to grab as many secular Turks as possible during this current purge who I'm sure can make a great contribution to our nation. I have a problem with those who want to replace democracy with religious fundamentalism. For the record neither the United States nor Canada has a significant domestic problem with this latter ideology, unlike European countries.
    Not to much disagree here, i'm actually not sure i've ever seen argue the other side here.

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