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    Quote Originally Posted by NJH View Post
    Circumstantial evidence, speculation, and unverifiable information from an outside party who has been appearing on Fox news for over a decade as a hack partisan pundit.

    lol, man.
    You're right, he was totally robbed by being shot in the back twice, because the best way to rob someone is to add murder on top of it for some reason and then not even take anything. A botched robbery where the victim doesn't even know he's being robbed before he's dead. In a perfectly safe neighbourhood. 12 days prior to the WikiLeaks drop.

    Nothing going on here, and the Clinton Foundation is 100% a charity that does great work in the world and the fact that it lost millions in donations after the election is just bad luck and not indicative of anything.

    Coincidences can be so crazy sometimes!
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    All black people have an obligation to their own people to not further their own systematic oppression. Go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCecil View Post
    Hillary and Bill Clinton = Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot and Richard Kuklinski all combined. It's all true. Open your eyes people!!
    Real fucking rich coming from a partisan hack who has been on the Russian conspiracy train from day 1. I guess conspiracies are ok if they support the Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCecil View Post
    Hillary and Bill Clinton = Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot and Richard Kuklinski all combined. It's all true. Open your eyes people!!
    Mock and exaggerate all you like.
    A lot of 'conspiracy theories' about American government involvement in murders, assasinations etc, were proven to be absolutely true after they were released in the FOI act.
    And those are just the ones that were commonly known among government officials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    Sounds like the typical Trump story
    You mean like the one about him leaking classified information that he just verified on fucking twitter himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    You're right, he was totally robbed by being shot in the back twice, because the best way to rob someone is to add murder on top of it for some reason and then not even take anything. A botched robbery where the victim doesn't even know he's being robbed before he's dead. In a perfectly safe neighbourhood. 12 days prior to the WikiLeaks drop.

    Nothing going on here, and the Clinton Foundation is 100% a charity that does great work in the world and the fact that it lost millions in donations after the election is just bad luck and not indicative of anything.

    Coincidences can be so crazy sometimes!
    It's hard to distinguish between an actual exceptional story and a conspiracy theory these days.

    He was killed in suspicious circumstances, sure. There's no evidence the Clintons had anything to do with it though so you can't go any further than that unless you want to exit the realm of reasonable discussion and just bang pots on the internet with a bunch of trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJH View Post
    You mean like the one about him leaking classified information that he just verified on fucking twitter himself?
    He's the President. He can discuss that if he chooses to. They discussed a threat about ISIS but did not talk about intelligence methods or anything of that nature.

    Where's the story? Wouldn't be news if it wasn't Russia and Russia shouldn't be story to begin with

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    Another new twist to the Seth Rich murder is there are reports now that he was the source of the clinton/dnc wikileaks dump.

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    ZzZzzzzZz. Wake me up when impeachment proceedings begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    He's the President. He can discuss that if he chooses to. They discussed a threat about ISIS but did not talk about intelligence methods or anything of that nature.

    Where's the story? Wouldn't be news if it wasn't Russia and Russia shouldn't be story to begin with
    The President doesn't know how to responsibly handle intelligence. It's already been a subject sans Russia, in other contexts.

    The intel community can't trust the President with high level information. It's a pretty big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJH View Post
    It's hard to distinguish between an actual exceptional story and a conspiracy theory these days.

    He was killed in suspicious circumstances, sure. There's no evidence the Clintons had anything to do with it though so you can't go any further than that unless you want to exit the realm of reasonable discussion and just bang pots on the internet with a bunch of trolls.
    Again, if the Clintons didn't have a history of shady deaths where the local law enforcement is all of a sudden uninterested in finding the perpetrator, I'd be a lot more skeptical. Clinton in my view is clearly some kind of psychopath and doesn't seem to have much of a moral dilemma when doling out murder for people who get in her way. Gaddafi was tortured to death and she had a good old laugh about it.

    The timing, circumstances and quick motive assigned by police are too much for me to think this was a random event. If that makes me a conspiracy troll, so be it. Also, I'd have to assume someone would have heard the gunshots unless the perpetrator was using a silencer...and that doesn't make a lot of sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    All black people have an obligation to their own people to not further their own systematic oppression. Go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJH View Post
    The President doesn't know how to responsibly handle intelligence. It's already been a subject sans Russia, in other contexts.

    The intel community can't trust the President with high level information. It's a pretty big deal.
    And you know this because you were inside the Obama admin? When he had specific terrorist threats he didn't share them with people he wanted to?

    The only thing we know that's unprecedented is leaks in the intelligence community that has gone hand-in-hand with the media's smear campaign from day 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    He's the President. He can discuss that if he chooses to. They discussed a threat about ISIS but did not talk about intelligence methods or anything of that nature.

    Where's the story? Wouldn't be news if it wasn't Russia and Russia shouldn't be story to begin with
    Russia being a scapegoat for everything has become downright comical.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    All black people have an obligation to their own people to not further their own systematic oppression. Go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Russia being a scapegoat for everything has become downright comical.
    My favourite was when she tried to blame the opposition to fracking on Russia.
    Like, why would anyone have a problem with fracking. Clearly, they must be paid Russian agitators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Again, if the Clintons didn't have a history of shady deaths...
    So are you supporting this conspiracy theory with a pile of other conspiracy theories? I would have to just assume that's the case.

    OF COURSE Sandy Hook was an inside job. The government has a lengthy history of murdering its own citizens for political reasons. 9/11, Timothy McVeigh, Oceanic Airlines Flight 815 - wake up sheeple. Do you not see the connections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    The only thing we know that's unprecedented is leaks in the intelligence community
    And you know this how? Because you were inside the intelligence community under the Obama admin?

    You're just parroting Trump tweets, man.

    It's not really a "smear campaign" to say President Trump is awful is President Trump is in fact awful.
    What do you make of the fact that he's taken more vacations than you have since he took office? Don't really care that the guy with the most responsibility in the entire world goes golfing twice a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJH View Post
    So are you supporting this conspiracy theory with a pile of other conspiracy theories? I would have to just assume that's the case.

    OF COURSE Sandy Hook was an inside job. The government has a lengthy history of murdering its own citizens for political reasons. 9/11, Timothy McVeigh, Oceanic Airlines Flight 815 - wake up sheeple. Do you not see the connections?
    Certainly not beyond the realm of possibility:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

    And if they allowed that to be seen by the public, it's not too hard to imagine much worse being in the redacted sections.
    Keep in mind, in addition to operations known by the public, there are entire operations where not even the name is known to the public.
    And beyond that are the off-book operations, where only a few people know about it, that are highly illegal.

    But in this case, we're talking about a lone individual being killed, which could easily be done without any sort of government sanction.

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