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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    What do you guys think of Steamer projecting Dahl to be a replacement level player next season?
    Isn't that because he has no prior MLB experience so steamer just assumes the worst? I feel like all rookies are treated this way except super prospects like Bryant although for all I know his first year projections could have been close to replacement level.

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    is steamer even reliable when it comes to players with little track record in the majors? There's probably so much noise in his 2016 numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    But the OF now is as bad as the rotation might be in a year with no Stroman.
    True, but there's guys available like Moss who could be signed at a likely discount for the outfield (not to mention Bautista still) and produce adequately. Outside of Tyson Ross (who's a bit of an injury risk himself), the other remaining starting pitchers are either puke inducing or made of expensive glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination View Post
    True, but there's guys available like Moss who could be signed at a likely discount for the outfield (not to mention Bautista still) and produce adequately. Outside of Tyson Ross (who's a bit of an injury risk himself), the other remaining starting pitchers are either puke inducing or made of expensive glass.
    You could probably get Jason Hammel for like 1 year $8M right now. He's projected to provide 1.3 WAR more than Moss is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie19 View Post
    You could probably get Jason Hammel for like 1 year $8M right now. He's projected to provide 1.3 WAR more than Moss is...
    I forgot about Hammel, he could be passable too. As for Moss, I think the projections are for him playing 1B where the defensive metrics don't like him. In the outfield he's average to maybe slightly above average. Changing that, and the projected WAR is probably about the same as Hammel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination View Post
    True, but there's guys available like Moss who could be signed at a likely discount for the outfield (not to mention Bautista still) and produce adequately. Outside of Tyson Ross (who's a bit of an injury risk himself), the other remaining starting pitchers are either puke inducing or made of expensive glass.
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    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by P2F View Post
    Did Taillon already opt out of the WBC?
    I can't answer that, I just saw the note about Freeman likely playing for Canada in the Rotoworld feed.

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    Apparently the Mariners were willing to give Seth Smith away to anyone who wanted to pay him, before settling on Gallardo when nobody would take Smith on. I have a hard time believing that Toronto has 30M in payroll space if they couldn't find 7M for Smith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    Apparently the Mariners were willing to give Seth Smith away to anyone who wanted to pay him, before settling on Gallardo when nobody would take Smith on. I have a hard time believing that Toronto has 30M in payroll space if they couldn't find 7M for Smith.
    Yeah this whole offseason just screams payroll constraints to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    Apparently the Mariners were willing to give Seth Smith away to anyone who wanted to pay him, before settling on Gallardo when nobody would take Smith on. I have a hard time believing that Toronto has 30M in payroll space if they couldn't find 7M for Smith.
    To be fair, apparently no one else wanted to pay Smith 7M either. There's probably something in the underlying medicals, etc that we don't know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination View Post
    To be fair, apparently no one else wanted to pay Smith 7M either. There's probably something in the underlying medicals, etc that we don't know about.
    True but other teams don't have 0 WAR projected for their corner outfield either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    True but other teams don't have 0 WAR projected for their corner outfield either.
    There's 3 or 4 teams with less projected from both their corner outfielders than us, and more with poor projections in one of the two spots. There's plenty of need, and no one bit. There's more to it, has to be.

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    Why would you take Smith now when you still have a few months to trade from someone better? Once you acquire Smith, you have to play him and you can probably do better in the trade market. And if you can't, it's such a small opportunity cost to miss out on Smith. He's probably 1 WAR next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
    Why would you take Smith now when you still have a few months to trade from someone better? Once you acquire Smith, you have to play him and you can probably do better in the trade market. And if you can't, it's such a small opportunity cost to miss out on Smith. He's probably 1 WAR next year.
    We aren't running out of time but we are running out of options. The Free Agent market is pretty pathetic at this point and I don't know who is on the trade market but it's tough because we don't have depth to trade at any position right now. I imagine whenever we approach teams about trades for OFers they inquire on one of our starters. But we only have 5 with little to no depth and next year we only have 3.

    We need two OFers and offense. Smith isn't a great OFer anymore but he can still hit. He bats lefty which also works well for us. He's got a reasonable contract and it wouldn't preclude us from acquiring another OF as we need two.

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    An update to the Jays rumours: Stephen Brunt tells @timandsid "by this time next week, something will have happened"

    According to Stephen Brunt, "something's cooking" on the Blue Jays front. And talk of the asking price on McCutchen.

    Brunt when asked whether these developments could be Bautista-related or other - "I would say other".
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    so Jay Bruce is a blue jay by this time next week

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