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    We won't sign Bautista. Shatkins is crazy for picks. Internally they probably put that pick at 15-20 Mil who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealAccountant View Post
    We won't sign Bautista. Shatkins is crazy for picks. Internally they probably put that pick at 15-20 Mil who knows.
    Not hard to replace Bautista. An above average but declining hitter with shit defense.

    I suspect Shatkins is looking at 2020 as the timing to be WS contenders again, around same time Martin and Tulo contracts expire.

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    Two of the Blue Jays' better prospects came straight from the Pirate system four months ago so they could dump Liriano. I really don't think there's a sexy enough package among the remaining pieces on the farm that gets McCutchen. Definitely would need to subtract from the MLB roster, probably starting with Stroman.

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    Emptying the farm forcing McCutchen would be a very confusing move given how they've operated so far. I don't think they're seriously interested unless it's a roster SP going back. Stroman for Cutch + prospects? Happ + prospects for Cutch?

    Stroman for Cutch + Josh Bell or Glasnow might get both teams thinking.
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    I wonder if expanding the deal to take back more salary like Harrison and/or Bastardo could lower the price for McCutchen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreekFatAss View Post
    I wonder if expanding the deal to take back more salary like Harrison and/or Bastardo could lower the price for McCutchen?
    I doubt it. Harrison is owed 17.5M over two years and isn't really overpaid. Bastardo has 1 year and 6.5M left, and is overpaid by like 2M probably. I doubt they let either impact their Cutch return.
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    Stroman will be traded this offseason. Shapiro see him like a bullpen arm?

    Stroman and Pompey for Cutchen and money

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    Im not averse to trading Stroman in the right deal, I am just wary to trim the rotation down to 4 starters when we have no clear options in house or even free agency to fill a 5th spot.

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    Well we can't go into the season with what we have now that's for sure. I would hate to see the Outfield situation improved at the cost of our greatest strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    Emptying the farm forcing McCutchen would be a very confusing move given how they've operated so far. I don't think they're seriously interested unless it's a roster SP going back. Stroman for Cutch + prospects? Happ + prospects for Cutch?

    Stroman for Cutch + Josh Bell or Glasnow might get both teams thinking.
    Not a chance Stroman gets us Cutch plus Bell or Glasgow.

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    I would rather let Pompey run with one of the spots and bring back Bautista. You still have Upton so Pompey could move to RF and Pearce as well. Bautista doesn't have to play RF everyday

    If you bring back Bautista then maybe you recover some of the Goodwill with the fans. You can always unload majorly at the deadline if things go wrong.

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    If the team wins, there will be good will. Good will means shit in the offseason. Let people whine. Having JB and EE didn't exactly fill the house each night before 2015.

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    Goodwill means shit. If you do what the fans want and it doesnt work they will forget about what you did for them and bitch that they aren't winning.

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    I don't see the Jays getting McCutchen under any scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianf View Post
    Not a chance Stroman gets us Cutch plus Bell or Glasgow.
    Hard to see a deal taking shape otherwise. They're probably similar caliber players (both projected at 3-3.5 wins this year). The big differences between them as assets:
    - McCutchen will make 28.5M over the next two years and Stroman probably makes about 8.
    - Stroman is controllable for two additional years.

    So if you believe the projections, their expected 2017/2018 win production is the same, only Stroman makes 20M less and has an additional 2 years of arbitration. That probably makes him like $50M more valuable than Cutch as an asset. So if not Bell or Glasnow, something of significant value would have to be added to the deal by Pittsburgh.
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