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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    We are in no position to trade a SP. I think some of you are forgetting how insanely lucky we got with SP health last year. It's very atypical, and you can probably expect to lose at least one of our SP to some serious injury time this season. God forbid it's Stro or Sanchez. We need to address OF, but trading a SP is not an option.
    I disagree. If you can trade a SP for a OF who is better I'd do it in a second. There's still risk that the SP you trade is one of the guys that would get hurt. I'd much rather have a Gavin Floyd/Mike Bolsinger make 5-10 starts over the course of the season than have the current 5 SP + 2 of Upton/Carrera/Smoak getting everyday ABs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    Because it's incredibly rare for a team to go through an entire season without losing one of their top-5 starters to a long DL stint...
    It depends what he meant by "serious injury"... so maybe someone should clarify that first. No reason to flat out expect someone to go down for the whole season, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    Yeah, I think the average is about 10 exactly.
    Yeah, it's 10 exactly, with 32 starts not belonging to the original starting 5.

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    Oh fuck off. Goins is a role player you dumb fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Governator View Post
    What about Lourdes Gurriel Jr? Also Pearce does have 2B experience. Jiminez is probably replacement level.
    Gurriel (Gourriel sp?) is likely not MLB ready, he's got some major question marks in regards to the bat. Do you see Pearce able to man lets say 2B if Travis does down for two months, as a regular for that period or are we back to using Barney and Goins in that capacity?

    We have some options but nothing that you'd want on the field for an extended period of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reedjohnsonfan View Post
    It depends what he meant by "serious injury"... so maybe someone should clarify that first. No reason to flat out expect someone to go down for the whole season, for example.
    So we should expect Dinger to be our forum Nostradamus on when a pitcher tears a tendon/muscle? It happens throughout the MLB every single season, don't be so obtuse.

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    Jays were quite lucky with pitching health in both 2015 and 2016 (even with Stro 2015 absence). Without EE and JB both gone, if a normal year happens and some pitchers go down to injury the Jays are likely battling for the ALE cellar. That's just the 2017 reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky99 View Post
    So we should expect Dinger to be our forum Nostradamus on when a pitcher tears a tendon/muscle? It happens throughout the MLB every single season, don't be so obtuse.
    Ultimately I was wondering if he/someone else had some info on which pitchers might be more injury prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrow View Post
    We don't even have the depth to replace any of them for an extended period of time, which was how I broke the statement down. Outside of Barney and potentially Burns I don't know if we have an actual replacement level piece to play between SS, 2B, 3B, C.
    Sign Valbuena and that solves everything but backup C.

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    What are we spending this budget on at this point? Valbuena is an obvious answer. Maybe they had a bad break up in Cleveland or something.

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    I know Valbuena is versatile but where does he play? This team needs OF more than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
    What are we spending this budget on at this point? Valbuena is an obvious answer. Maybe they had a bad break up in Cleveland or something.
    Not sure why he's obvious. He can play 3rd but with Donaldson its a waste. You aren't going to sign him to be a platoon 1st baseman especially when he isn't even projected to be an average hitter.

    Jays need 2 outfielders.

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    Valbuena has been over 125 wRC+ vs. RHP for the last 3 years. Just play him at 1B and Pearce at LF vs. RHP.

    Against LHP, Pearce plays 1B and Upton plays LF.

    And he also provides cover for Donaldson so we don't have to use Barney there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    I know Valbuena is versatile but where does he play? This team needs OF more than anything else.
    Well he played 3 games in LF so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
    Valbuena has been over 125 wRC+ vs. RHP for the last 3 years. Just play him at 1B and Pearce at LF vs. RHP.

    Against LHP, Pearce plays 1B and Upton plays LF.

    And he also provides cover for Donaldson so we don't have to use Barney there.
    That could work. I'm not sure the FO sees it that way though.

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    Well there's no one left that can hit RHP except Bautista and Trumbo. Valbuena is even significantly better against RHP than Napoli, Alvarez, Saunders and Moss.

    What was Atkins talking about when he said Pearce had versatility? Just play 1B every day and if Travis gets hurt he can play 2B? I'm sure the FO sees him spending some time in the OF.

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