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    Valbuena has been over 125 wRC+ vs. RHP for the last 3 years. Just play him at 1B and Pearce at LF vs. RHP.

    Against LHP, Pearce plays 1B and Upton plays LF.

    And he also provides cover for Donaldson so we don't have to use Barney there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    I know Valbuena is versatile but where does he play? This team needs OF more than anything else.
    Well he played 3 games in LF so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
    Valbuena has been over 125 wRC+ vs. RHP for the last 3 years. Just play him at 1B and Pearce at LF vs. RHP.

    Against LHP, Pearce plays 1B and Upton plays LF.

    And he also provides cover for Donaldson so we don't have to use Barney there.
    That could work. I'm not sure the FO sees it that way though.

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    Well there's no one left that can hit RHP except Bautista and Trumbo. Valbuena is even significantly better against RHP than Napoli, Alvarez, Saunders and Moss.

    What was Atkins talking about when he said Pearce had versatility? Just play 1B every day and if Travis gets hurt he can play 2B? I'm sure the FO sees him spending some time in the OF.

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    NEW YORK METS TRADE RUMORS: FRONT OFFICE REGRETS PICKING UP JAY BRUCE OPTION

    Link: http://www.inquisitr.com/3859293/new...-bruce-option/

    Of course they do, because its Jay fucking Bruce.

    Nows the time to strike if they want a Liriano type deal for Bruce. Smoak for Bruce + 1 or 2 prospects. We'll take the salary. Then sign Bautista and you're golden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    NEW YORK METS TRADE RUMORS: FRONT OFFICE REGRETS PICKING UP JAY BRUCE OPTION

    Link: http://www.inquisitr.com/3859293/new...-bruce-option/

    Of course they do, because its Jay fucking Bruce.

    Nows the time to strike if they want a Liriano type deal for Bruce. Smoak for Bruce + 1 or 2 prospects. We'll take the salary. Then sign Bautista and you're golden.
    Except for the terrible defence when your running Jose and Bruce out there

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    We had Saunders and Bautista out there this season. In the grand scheme of things it'll be fine.

    Plus there's ways around it. Rotate Pearce and Bautista between 1B and RF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    NEW YORK METS TRADE RUMORS: FRONT OFFICE REGRETS PICKING UP JAY BRUCE OPTION

    Link: http://www.inquisitr.com/3859293/new...-bruce-option/

    Of course they do, because its Jay fucking Bruce.

    Nows the time to strike if they want a Liriano type deal for Bruce. Smoak for Bruce + 1 or 2 prospects. We'll take the salary. Then sign Bautista and you're golden.
    Smoak for Bruce and Nimmo. Sign Valbeuna and collect the 1st rounder for Jose

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    Smoak and Bruce are so similar right now. Both guys were signed as overpaid security blankets and both contracts turned into a complete waste when the market on bat first players completely cratered. Chris Carter and Jose Bautista are much better players and neither even has a job.
    "We don't have to plan for a rebuild. But all 30 teams have to stay agile, and have to understand that we're dealing with human beings, and these assets to organizations are human and change and evolve. I think what we've tried to do is become more flexible and agile, and to sustain championships is to build from within."

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    Smoak is a sunk cost. If he's a stumbling block for a genuine upgrade then I'm really disappointed. They're letting the Smoak problem just compound itself to hurt 2017.

    They extended him to avoid being frozen out of 1B bidding wars, but there are no bidding wars and upgrades are/were everywhere (Bautista, Carter, EE, Moss, Napoli)
    Last edited by intentional wok; 01-07-2017 at 12:09 PM.

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    Hard pass on Brandon Nimmo.
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    Of course he can, but it's safe to assume Biagini will match Stroman's numbers over the next three years easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intentional wok View Post
    Smoak is a sunk cost. If he's a stumbling block for a genuine upgrade then I'm really disappointed. They're letting the Smoak problem just compound itself to hurt 2017.

    They extended him to avoid being frozen out of 1B bidding wars, but there are no bidding wars and upgrades are/were everywhere (Bautista, Carter, EE, Moss, Napoli)
    This is a really good point. They were worried that EE wouldn't come back, and that they'd be forced to pay over the odds for a 1B if Smoak left too. So they secured Smoak early.

    2 things have changed since then:

    Smoak has gone from average to DFA standard since signing his contract;

    the 1B market never took off, it'd be easy to get another 1B even now.

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    Smoak wastes a 25 man spot by being only a 1B, not good enough to start every day, and not good enough to DH.

    IMO that's more harmful than throwing away $4m for 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L54 View Post
    Hard pass on Brandon Nimmo.
    Why? He's a solid prospect, walks, doesn't strike out a lot, and should play above average defense. He'll probably be more of an average big leaguer rather than a star, but that's okay.

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    I would take Bruce + a prospect for Smoak

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    Mets would just as easily give the Jays 4 Mil then give up a roster space for a below average first baseman who cant be optioned

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