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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie19 View Post
    How much WAR do you guys think we need to get from LF and RF to be a playoff team? 4? 5?
    Gotta be 5 I would imagine. Pompey, Pillar and Upton? Bleh.

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    FO wants to give no more than QO and Bautista wants 1 year for more than QO. Maybe they can compromise and do 1 yr/ QO + bonuses. And bonuses can go up to $20 depending on metrics used. Gives Baustista the deal he wants since if he is as good as he believes, he should get the $20 and if Bautista is as good as the FO believes he gets QO, but if he's better than they believe he gets $20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydermike View Post
    FO wants to give no more than QO and Bautista wants 1 year for more than QO. Maybe they can compromise and do 1 yr/ QO + bonuses. And bonuses can go up to $20 depending on metrics used. Gives Baustista the deal he wants since if he is as good as he believes, he should get the $20 and if Bautista is as good as the FO believes he gets QO, but if he's better than they believe he gets $20.
    I don't think so. 1 or 2 millions isn't the difference here.
    New FO don't want Jose. It's time to move forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrioter View Post
    I don't think so. 1 or 2 millions isn't the difference here.
    New FO don't want Jose. It's time to move forward
    Seems to me they are afraid to spend Rogers money. There was the offer to Fowler but it was probably made knowing it would get rejected
    Goodbye AA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrioter View Post
    I don't think so. 1 or 2 millions isn't the difference here.
    New FO don't want Jose. It's time to move forward
    This.

    A 1 year deal makes no sense when the value of the pick is factored in, and the FO wants no part of Jose on a multi year contract with his 10/5 rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcanuck View Post
    This.

    A 1 year deal makes no sense when the value of the pick is factored in, and the FO wants no part of Jose on a multi year contract with his 10/5 rights.
    You do have to be willing to take some risks. Can't sit on your butt all offseason unwilling to pull the trigger

    If I had to guess we are ending up empty handed here with a few more minor league deals and a bag full of excuses
    Goodbye AA.

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    Why I waited this long to put RA on ignore, I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealAccountant View Post
    Seems to me they are afraid to spend Rogers money. There was the offer to Fowler but it was probably made knowing it would get rejected
    Quote Originally Posted by RealAccountant View Post
    You do have to be willing to take some risks. Can't sit on your butt all offseason unwilling to pull the trigger

    If I had to guess we are ending up empty handed here with a few more minor league deals and a bag full of excuses
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    How many bans do you need before it's permanent?

    I guess he'll just come back under a different user name and it will be more of a pain in the ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcanuck View Post
    This.

    A 1 year deal makes no sense when the value of the pick is factored in, and the FO wants no part of Jose on a multi year contract with his 10/5 rights.
    We need that fucking draft pick. Our farm suxxxx as hell.

    In Shapiro we trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrioter View Post
    We need that fucking draft pick. Our farm suxxxx as hell.
    If none of the other teams are willing to sign Jose until June than the draft is for all practical purposes already lost and shouldn't factor in the decision making process.
    "We don't have to plan for a rebuild. But all 30 teams have to stay agile, and have to understand that we're dealing with human beings, and these assets to organizations are human and change and evolve. I think what we've tried to do is become more flexible and agile, and to sustain championships is to build from within."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcanuck View Post
    This.

    A 1 year deal makes no sense when the value of the pick is factored in, and the FO wants no part of Jose on a multi year contract with his 10/5 rights.
    I think a 1-year deal still makes sense if Bautista helps this team win/compete/contend for 2017.

    Having an extra pick would be really nice, but there are still enough pieces here to make a run in 2017.

    I am not in favour of a recklessly trying to improve this team for 2017 for the sake of appearances, but I don't think the team should outright dismiss a 1-year deal just because of the pick. If we need that pick so badly, we should probably just blow the whole thing up.

    That said, entertaining a 1-year deal for Bautista is contingent on the idea that he is healthy and able to bounce back. It continues to seem that the FO does not believe this to be the case, or there's some other negative factor about him that outweighs whatever value he brings to the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKat View Post
    If none of the other teams are willing to sign Jose until June than the draft is for all practical purposes already lost and shouldn't factor in the decision making process.
    Also good chance you could trade him for more than what the draft picks is worth if he has a decent first half.

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    The question is if JB waits till June/July till the draft pick is off the table,and he will be picked up by someone in the run for Oct. Does he get a multi year contract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlingtonbandit View Post
    Also good chance you could trade him for more than what the draft picks is worth if he has a decent first half.
    10-5

    10-5

    10-5

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlingtonbandit View Post
    Also good chance you could trade him for more than what the draft picks is worth if he has a decent first half.
    He would have a NTC (10/5 rights) if he signed with the Jays. Not that easy.

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