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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Holy fuck, Bryce Harper is a monster. We need one of him.
    But their BP is a mess. I wonder what the Jays could get from them for Osuna?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Holy fuck, Bryce Harper is a monster. We need one of him.
    We do have one of him. His name is Josh Donaldson.
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    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgfiller View Post
    We do have one of him. His name is Josh Donaldson.
    Come on bruh
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant77 View Post
    I think we all know it's the latter. The Mariners have been a disgustingly bad offensive for a decade now and nothing has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Come on bruh
    Am I wrong? They both become free agents at the same time and they're about the same talent level (JD actually projects for more WAR than Harper this season while beating him in the last two years combined).
    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgfiller View Post
    Am I wrong? They both become free agents at the same time and they're about the same talent level (JD actually projects for more WAR than Harper this season while beating him in the last two years combined).
    Harper is way younger, so that give him the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wk680 View Post
    Harper is way younger, so that give him the edge.
    Sure, he has the bigger upside with him being younger and JD being in his decline years. Still, team control would be the same and like I said, they're about the same talent level with Donaldson projecting better for this season. So it's pretty much even in the end.
    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgfiller View Post
    Sure, he has the bigger upside with him being younger and JD being in his decline years. Still, team control would be the same and like I said, they're about the same talent level with Donaldson projecting better for this season. So it's pretty much even in the end.
    How is that even in the end? You can sign Harper for 7-10 years and be pretty confident that he's going to perform at an elite level for most of those years due to his age (notwithstanding injuries). By the time Donaldson becomes a free agent his MVP days will be well behind him and he'll already be in decline, thus signing him on a long term deal will prove to be much less forgiving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metafour View Post
    How is that even in the end? You can sign Harper for 7-10 years and be pretty confident that he's going to perform at an elite level for most of those years due to his age (notwithstanding injuries). By the time Donaldson becomes a free agent his MVP days will be well behind him and he'll already be in decline, thus signing him on a long term deal will prove to be much less forgiving.
    The age gap is huge. Donaldson turns 32 this Dec., while Harper will only turn 25 this Oct. Yes Harper can possibly get an 8-10 year mega-contract similar to Stanton.

    So the question is what do you do with Donaldson if you are Jays FO? Do you make a push to sign him for 4-5 years at $25-30M per before start of 2018 season? This would be for his age 32-35/36 seasons. Maybe he sees what happened to EE (and JB) and decides to take this generous offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metafour View Post
    How is that even in the end? You can sign Harper for 7-10 years and be pretty confident that he's going to perform at an elite level for most of those years due to his age (notwithstanding injuries). By the time Donaldson becomes a free agent his MVP days will be well behind him and he'll already be in decline, thus signing him on a long term deal will prove to be much less forgiving.
    You can sign Harper for 7-10 years at a price tag of $400 million, which I'm pretty sure the Blue Jays would not offer. So in the end, you'll likely end up losing either player since Donaldson won't be come cheap either. So, as far as having a monster in the level of Bryce Harper for two seasons, the Blue Jays have him in Josh Donaldson. I think it's pretty self explanatory, I don't believe I'm way off base here.

    Josh Donaldson might be the best positional player to have ever put on a Blue Jays uniform, he's still only 31 years of age. Am I saying he's probably more valuable than Bryce Harper will be over the next 10 seasons? No. Are they currently at roughly the same level of talent, and we should expect this to continue until they both reach free agency? Yes, under reasonable expectations this should be the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Oh boy, I can feel the hate coming for one of the statements I just made in the post above.
    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant77 View Post
    I think we all know it's the latter. The Mariners have been a disgustingly bad offensive for a decade now and nothing has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Your the most dumn evar
    Despite Harper's gaudy 2015, Donaldson was still more valuable in 2015-2016, by over 3 wins!

    Your dumnerer
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    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    I wonder how long the Dodgers can wait on Cody Bellinger? He had a 195 wRC+ before today and went 2 for 3 with a walk and his 3rd homer. A-Gon has to hear the footsteps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    I wonder how long the Dodgers can wait on Cody Bellinger? He had a 195 wRC+ before today and went 2 for 3 with a walk and his 3rd homer. A-Gon has to hear the footsteps.
    Weird. I was posting about Bellinger at the same time, but it just took me a few minutes to gather and calculate all of his stats to include today's game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    I wonder how long the Dodgers can wait on Cody Bellinger? He had a 195 wRC+ before today and went 2 for 3 with a walk and his 3rd homer. A-Gon has to hear the footsteps.
    He'll have to wait for an injury.. or when the Dodgers dangle him for pitching that won't break down frequently--Rich Hill just went down today with a blister. Not helping is that Maeda and Ryu are struggling...

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