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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie19 View Post
    stat-scouting - Carlos Vargas is an interesting prospect. High BB%, low K%. His numbers were dragged down by a low BABIP last year.
    BB and K rates basically don't matter in rookie ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    WTH are the Rays smoking here?
    I'm very happy to see Smyly go to Seattle (fantasy sports reasons), but imo if they Rays are going to trade someone like him they should be looking for less volume and more quality.

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    Shae Simmons could be nasty. Smyly will probably work out fine at SAFECO.

    Dipoto is doing everything he can to get Mariners in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HERPDERP View Post
    Holy Fuck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerb View Post
    Figured that'd get done today. Another good deal by the A's. Seems like the LHRP's are much more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerb View Post
    I wonder if the A's will try to cash in on Doolittle now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination View Post
    I wonder if the A's will try to cash in on Doolittle now?
    Nats...

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    Speaking of, I wonder what type return we could get for Osuna at this point. Not advocating trading him. He's the only truly elite arm in the pen. But a 21-year closer who throws 98 mph fastballs in this market is worth a pretty penny. Like would a team like the Nats who desperately need a closer and are going all in trade Robles+ for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Speaking of, I wonder what type return we could get for Osuna at this point. Not advocating trading him. He's the only truly elite arm in the pen. But a 21-year closer who throws 98 mph fastballs in this market is worth a pretty penny. Like would a team like the Nats who desperately need a closer and are going all in trade Robles+ for him.
    Maybe they trade him after seeing how ugly his form on the leg press was...

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlingtonbandit View Post
    Maybe they trade him after seeing how ugly his form on the leg press was...
    Or just how ugly he is

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    Quote Originally Posted by burlingtonbandit View Post
    Maybe they trade him after seeing how ugly his form on the leg press was...
    made me cringe.

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    he should get on Sanchez' program
    Fuck Taylor Swift

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    I love how he has an 11 year old kid as his spotter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJH View Post
    BB and K rates basically don't matter in rookie ball
    Isn't that one of the things people are impressed about with Vlad Jr.?

    Perhaps that's just the people who aren't as smart as NJH (such as me).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie19 View Post
    Isn't that one of the things people are impressed about with Vlad Jr.?

    Perhaps that's just the people who aren't as smart as NJH (such as me).
    Sorry, I just realized that I misspoke.

    IIRC - BB% in the low minors is irrelevant to essentially irrelevant in projecting hitting prospects.
    K% does carry significance.

    I think the biggest takeaway here is that walk rate doesn’t matter very much at the lower levels of the minors. In fact, it’s not predictive at all for players in rookie ball or Low-A. And even as high as Double-A, a one percent change in strikeout rate affects a player’s projection by about 1.5 times as much as a one percent change in walk rate.

    Intuitively, this makes sense. A hitter doesn’t need to be particularly good at hitting to run a high walk rate in the low minors, as pitchers at these levels often have little idea where the ball’s going. As a result, batters can get away with taking an ultra-passive approach in the hopes they’ll see four balls before they see three strikes. That strategy might work in Rookie ball or A-ball, but it can lose its effectiveness in the upper levels, where pitchers have a better handle on their control.

    To be clear, this isn’t to say that a high-walk prospect is no more likely to make it than a low-walk prospect. Walk rate generally correlates with future success, but only because it’s collinear with ISO. Simply put, players who hit for power also tend to walk a lot, but it’s the power–rather than the walks–that predicts big league performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJH View Post
    Sorry, I just realized that I misspoke.

    IIRC - BB% in the low minors is irrelevant to essentially irrelevant in projecting hitting prospects.
    K% does carry significance.
    I appreciate being corrected. The best part of this board is learning from those who are wiser than I.

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