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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    Are the Padres the worst-run team in baseball now? Holding Brad Hand makes no sense. His value should have been higher now than it will ever be, and he's currently pitching at peak level. IMO not selling the most volatile category of asset in the game is pretty indefensible. They seem to get everything wrong.
    I don't think it's a big deal, he's still under control for the next two seasons albeit at a higher price. I wouldn't move him either if a team wasn't willing to give me the prospects I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade View Post
    I don't think it's a big deal, he's still under control for the next two seasons albeit at a higher price. I wouldn't move him either if a team wasn't willing to give me the prospects I want.
    I'd like to know what they were offered but the Jays managed to turn a shitty starting pitcher in to a guy who should be able to start in RF next season. You'd have to imagine that the Astros would have done the same deal minus Aoki for Hand. They do have him for two more years but I'll be surprised if the market for him actually increases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    I'd like to know what they were offered but the Jays managed to turn a shitty starting pitcher in to a guy who should be able to start in RF next season. You'd have to imagine that the Astros would have done the same deal minus Aoki for Hand. They do have him for two more years but I'll be surprised if the market for him actually increases.
    I can't imagine the Padres would take Hernandez for Hand, then they really would be the worst run organization in baseball. We had to pay significant money on the Liriano deal to even get Herandez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade View Post
    I can't imagine the Padres would take Hernandez for Hand, then they really would be the worst run organization in baseball. We had to pay significant money on the Liriano deal to even get Herandez.
    Yeah I didn't mean a straight swap just highlighting that if deals like the Liriano one were to be had then surely they could have gotten something for an even better pitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    Yeah I didn't mean a straight swap just highlighting that if deals like the Liriano one were to be had then surely they could have gotten something for an even better pitcher.
    Yeah. Another lesser reliever returned Candelario. All signs point to SD likely having pretty good offers on a guy whose value only stands to decline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTS View Post
    Yeah. Another lesser reliever returned Candelario. All signs point to SD likely having pretty good offers on a guy whose value only stands to decline.
    That's the return I was thinking of as well. Mind you, Avila went as part of the package, but I can't imagine he had a ton of value despite his career year.

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    Oh, and LOL @ the Orioles for thinking they were buyers

    At least our FO knows the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Snarls View Post
    Oh, and LOL @ the Orioles for thinking they were buyers

    At least our FO knows the difference
    Still can't believe Rogers wanted to hire Dan Duquette. We got lucky with Shapiro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade View Post
    Still can't believe Rogers wanted to hire Dan Duquette. We got lucky with Shapiro.
    I'm pretty sure It's more ownership then it is Duquette. Ownership for the Orioles is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Snarls View Post
    Oh, and LOL @ the Orioles for thinking they were buyers

    At least our FO knows the difference
    The O's did well. They control Beckham next year for if and when they decline the J.J. Hardy option. Of course, they could have had Machado playing shortstop this whole time but that's a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinGregg View Post
    Might as well get Vancouver c's season tickets then if you don't give a shit about the quality of baseball you watch
    Padres play other good MLB teams you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    I'd like to know what they were offered but the Jays managed to turn a shitty starting pitcher in to a guy who should be able to start in RF next season. You'd have to imagine that the Astros would have done the same deal minus Aoki for Hand. They do have him for two more years but I'll be surprised if the market for him actually increases.
    We're in serious trouble if Hernandez is our starting RF to begin the year. At the very least, we need a strong side platoon player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade View Post
    Still can't believe Rogers wanted to hire Dan Duquette. We got lucky with Shapiro.
    Duquette has done very well with the hand that he was dealt in my opinion. They have a meddling owner who won't let him sign international players and probably wouldn't let him sell at the deadline either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant77 View Post
    We're in serious trouble if Hernandez is our starting RF to begin the year. At the very least, we need a strong side platoon player.
    That's what I thought but a lot of what I read seems to think he could do it. Maybe he'd be better suited for the 4th OF spot to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant77 View Post
    We're in serious trouble if Hernandez is our starting RF to begin the year. At the very least, we need a strong side platoon player.
    That's an exaggeration, you don't know how good he can be until he's given a chance.

    The FO thinks Hernandez can play everyday, and he was blocked with the Astros so his chances to play were limited there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant77 View Post
    Duquette has done very well with the hand that he was dealt in my opinion. They have a meddling owner who won't let him sign international players and probably wouldn't let him sell at the deadline either.
    A good executive would be able to convince the owner on what needs to be done in order for the Franchise to be successful. Just because Angelos is a moron doesn't give Duqette a free pass. That Helickson trade was stupid as hell anyway plus Angelos apparently gave approval to trade the relievers.

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