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    Quote Originally Posted by wk680 View Post
    It will be interesting to see what happens with Latos after 1 good outing and 2 garbage ones. I guess it depends where they stand with Sanchez and Stroman. Then again, he seems like an obvious choice to be moved off the active roster (DFA'd) to make room for the recent waiver claim, Ramirez.
    Unfortunately it looks like they are going to give Latos atleast one more start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonn View Post
    Unfortunately it looks like they are going to give Latos atleast one more start.
    "When I'm in a slump, I comfort myself by saying I believe in dinosaurs, then somewhere, dinosaurs they must be believing in me. And if they believe in me, then I can believe in me. Then I bust out." - Mookie Wilson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonn View Post
    Unfortunately it looks like they are going to give Latos atleast one more start.
    The Jays want to tank like an NBA team. More Latos helps with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glory View Post
    Any chance they stretch out Biagini? Threw 41 pitches in his last outing. Can't see why they can't work off that and stretch him out over a few starts.
    Bullpen is already shaky with him, so it fills one hole while creating another. But if Biagini can be an effective starter, then converting him now obviously improves the team's outlook for 2018 and beyond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    One thing about this management group, when something is working they flush the toilet quickly. Salty and now Latos. Even Upton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    TJ House? Brett Oberholtzer? Bolsinger? Or even prospect Luis Santos?

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    Our bullpen is going to look like shit if we take Biagini out of it but I'm also curious to see if he can succeed as a starter. We've only got 3 of the 5 filled out for next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    Our bullpen is going to look like shit if we take Biagini out of it but I'm also curious to see if he can succeed as a starter. We've only got 3 of the 5 filled out for next year.
    But it's also easier to find bullpen help than good starters. I'm nervous about taking a chance with Joe but I also do think it's a worthwhile risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    Our bullpen is going to look like shit if we take Biagini out of it but I'm also curious to see if he can succeed as a starter. We've only got 3 of the 5 filled out for next year.
    Biagini's basically the only guy holding the BP together right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendleton View Post
    But it's also easier to find bullpen help than good starters. I'm nervous about taking a chance with Joe but I also do think it's a worthwhile risk.
    Yeah I agree. I think it's worth trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    Our bullpen is going to look like shit if we take Biagini out of it but I'm also curious to see if he can succeed as a starter. We've only got 3 of the 5 filled out for next year.
    You're absolutely right. At the same time the rotation is in shambles and the season isn't doing so hot either so you basically have to see what Joe's all about as a starter. As for the bullpen, you hope that a guy like Neil Ramirez pans out and then a couple of fireballers fall into your lap over the course of the season and magically regain the ability to throw quality strikes and focus on keeping the rotation above floating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgfiller View Post
    You're absolutely right. At the same time the rotation is in shambles and the season isn't doing so hot either so you basically have to see what Joe's all about as a starter. As for the bullpen, you hope that a guy like Neil Ramirez pans out and then a couple of fireballers fall into your lap over the course of the season and magically regain the ability the throw quality strikes and focus on keeping the rotation above floating.
    Yeah I like this move. I'm curious to see if Biagini can get through a lineup two and three times. If he can be a league average starter he'd provide a ton of surplus value on his current contract. It'd help us fill other holes so we can be competitive next year as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    Yeah I like this move. I'm curious to see if Biagini can get through a lineup two and three times. If he can be a league average starter he'd provide a ton of surplus value on his current contract. It'd help us fill other holes so we can be competitive next year as well.
    Gruber mocking aside, Biagini legitimately has a pretty nice arsenal, fit for that of an at worst 4/5th starter type. Like you said, it'll be interesting to see what happens when he's facing the hitters for a second and third time, how the fastball plays when it's some ticks slower, and if that big overhand curve has the same sharpness and soft-contact inducing abilities when hitters start to sit on some of his pitches.
    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    How does Sparkman being on the 60 day DL effect his Rule 5 status? Can we just keep him on the DL the whole season and then retain him as a result?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator View Post
    How does Sparkman being on the 60 day DL effect his Rule 5 status? Can we just keep him on the DL the whole season and then retain him as a result?
    I think that any lost days just carry over to next year.

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