Yeah I liked both of those signings at the time.
Another FA signing that reminds me of those is Chone Figgins. I wanted him bad back in the day but as soon as Seattle signed him his numbers tanked.
Blue Bird Banter poll. I'm not sure what is more surprising the result or that BBB has 4000 hits
Do you approve of the job Mark Shipiro and Ross Atkins are doing?
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"We don't have to plan for a rebuild. But all 30 teams have to stay agile, and have to understand that we're dealing with human beings, and these assets to organizations are human and change and evolve. I think what we've tried to do is become more flexible and agile, and to sustain championships is to build from within."
I know it's a sss but when they signed Smoak wasn't he getting on base at something around .400 or something g like that? Now he did take a nose dive after that but maybe that has something to do with it. Either way, the Smoak signing really goes against what this risk adverse FO stands for and I think it probably will stand to be an outlier.
The only two transactions that I really dislike with Shapiro/Atkins are the Smoak and Chavez ones and neither are anything close to being crippling.
They made a more then fair offer to EE and a fair offer to Fowler. Bautista is still there but other then that there weren't too many realistic options in FA and theres not much in the upper minors that anyone would want for an impact player.
This is the price the team will have to pay for AA's trades at the 2015 trade deadline.
"But Happ, Biagini, Upton, Grilli, Benoit, Liriano etc were not designed to be impact moves that pushed them over the top.
They were gambles that worked out. Did they really foresee Happ's season when they got him? What about Biagini the
rule-5 pick? What about Grilli the 40-year-old being their main set-up man? In other words, they got lucky last season.
Those were all cheap-skate moves with the intention of staying just relevant in the division. I did not see an ernest
effort to push the team over the top while they are in the window of contention." - Satan, 2017
Tulo trade was a big win with Reyes being a $50 Million loss and Hoffman having a bad debut. Norris and Boyd haven't really done much either. I don't get why people make it sound like the 2015 trades were bad, they were clear wins.
My main point was that that in a poor FA class we have no prospects to trade because the majority were used up in 2015.