• TB
    BOS
    Preview
    1:05 PM ET
  • ATL
    HOU
    Preview
    1:05 PM ET
  • STL
    MIA
    Preview
    1:05 PM ET
  • BAL
    PIT
    Preview
    1:05 PM ET
  • NYY
    TOR
    Preview
    1:05 PM ET
  • MIN
    WSH
    Preview
    1:05 PM ET
  • TOR
    PHI
    Preview
    1:07 PM ET
  • NYM
    DET
    Preview
    1:10 PM ET
  • CHC
    CLE
    Preview
    3:05 PM ET
  • CWS
    COL
    Preview
    3:05 PM ET
  • OAK
    LAA
    Preview
    3:05 PM ET
  • MIL
    LAD
    Preview
    3:05 PM ET
  • CIN
    SF
    Preview
    3:05 PM ET
  • KC
    TEX
    Preview
    3:05 PM ET
  • COL
    ARI
    Preview
    3:10 PM ET
  • SEA
    SD
    Preview
    3:10 PM ET
Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst ... 345
Results 65 to 75 of 75

Thread: A look at the brief history of Mark Shapiro's Blue Jays, till now and moving forward

  1. #65
    Blue Chip Prospect Bobthe4th's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Leeds (England)
    Posts
    855
    Thanks
    93
    Thanked 173 Times in 119 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by TheHurl View Post
    I'd love to know what Tellez's trade value is. I'd be shocked if someone gives more than a reliever for him, but I don't see him helping the team this year so might be worth it. Pompey interests me too...his projections are still okay, but he's certainly not shiny and new.
    I could see us moving Pompey at the deadline if we're close to the playoffs and he hasn't been playing.

    It'd be in a deal where we take on salary from a non contending team who are looking to shed salary, and can afford to start Pompey to give him a chance.

    If we are out of contention maybe Pompey gets that chance here instead.

  2. #66
    Blue Chip Prospect Bobthe4th's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Leeds (England)
    Posts
    855
    Thanks
    93
    Thanked 173 Times in 119 Posts
    Even though with Gibbons picking the lineup Pompey is behind Carrera, Upton, Pillar, Pearce, whoever we sign for RF, and probably Barney he's still one of the main candidates for promotion in the event of injuries.

    And with his trade value being down compared to say 2 years ago, I don't really see us trading him right now.

  3. #67
    DONOR
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Sault Ste. Marie
    Posts
    3,989
    Thanks
    481
    Thanked 989 Times in 654 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by glory View Post
    I actually hope the reason for signing Smoak was because they see something in his numbers or swing or something that indicates they think he can breakout. Even if they are wrong in that case, at least they'd have some logic behind it. Signing him because they wanted a warm body at first is a pretty bad reason for an extension.

    Still, if that's their worst move, and it looks like it is so far, then that's not bad at all.
    The Liam Hendriks move will probably end up being worse, if it isn't already. That can be mostly attributed to Tony LaCava though, along with the Estrada and Happ signings. He basically had full autonomy during that period according to Shapiro.

  4. #68
    Big Leaguer
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Shakespeare, ON
    Posts
    1,891
    Thanks
    1,126
    Thanked 436 Times in 272 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by intentional wok View Post
    ...which still means they'd have had to do free agent shopping and still saved themselves the effort.
    I am going to go on a limb and say....its kind of their job to go free agent shopping and fill positions. I really highly doubt the reasoning was, can check that off before we get to the off-season. I think hedging against an inflation in the market in the off-season was the likely reason.

  5. #69
    Big Leaguer
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Shakespeare, ON
    Posts
    1,891
    Thanks
    1,126
    Thanked 436 Times in 272 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant77 View Post
    The Liam Hendriks move will probably end up being worse, if it isn't already. That can be mostly attributed to Tony LaCava though, along with the Estrada and Happ signings. He basically had full autonomy during that period according to Shapiro.
    Can we say that Liam Hendriks was basically traded for Mike Bolsinger? Is that fair? If Lacava traded Hendriks for Chavez, then Atkins maybe made it not so bad, by trading Chavez for Bolsinger.

  6. #70
    DONOR
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Sault Ste. Marie
    Posts
    3,989
    Thanks
    481
    Thanked 989 Times in 654 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Nafro View Post
    Can we say that Liam Hendriks was basically traded for Mike Bolsinger? Is that fair? If Lacava traded Hendriks for Chavez, then Atkins maybe made it not so bad, by trading Chavez for Bolsinger.
    That's reasonable, but you have to add in Chavez's salary (4 million? total guess).

    We'll see if Bolsinger ever makes an impact on this club. I like the trade either way for the depth, but I'm not as convinced as others that he'll be a quality pitcher in this division.

  7. #71
    Hall of Famer King's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    North Korea
    Posts
    14,003
    Thanks
    5,663
    Thanked 9,421 Times in 5,662 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by TheHurl View Post
    I'd love to know what Tellez's trade value is. I'd be shocked if someone gives more than a reliever for him, but I don't see him helping the team this year so might be worth it. Pompey interests me too...his projections are still okay, but he's certainly not shiny and new.
    Dan Vogelbach for Mike Montgomery

  8. #72
    Super Moderator TheHurl's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    10,741
    Thanks
    643
    Thanked 5,115 Times in 2,933 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by King View Post
    Dan Vogelbach for Mike Montgomery
    Fair comp but Dipoto deals almost can't count as he makes so many of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by weams View Post
    You have to realize we have a real life celebrity who posts on our boards Roy firestone.

  9. #73
    Big Leaguer Dick_Pole's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    2,782
    Thanks
    202
    Thanked 1,007 Times in 615 Posts
    14 months into the job and we are debating if Chavez or Smoak has been the worse move. Conclusion: He's done a pretty good job so far.

    I still think Smoak can be a diamond in the rough.

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Dick_Pole For This Useful Post:

    Spanky99 (01-13-2017)

  11. #74
    Orioles Hangout Admin Boxcar's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    19,100
    Thanks
    1,771
    Thanked 6,889 Times in 4,280 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Dick_Pole View Post
    14 months into the job and we are debating if Chavez or Smoak has been the worse move. Conclusion: He's done a pretty good job so far.

    I still think Smoak can be a diamond in the rough.
    Yes, but that's because he doesn't seem interested in taking the kind of risks AA did. We'll never get a Donaldson trade under Shatkins, but we'll also never get a Dickey trade either.
    Quote Originally Posted by KingKat View Post
    STD is on fire tonight.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Boxcar For This Useful Post:

    Spanky99 (01-14-2017)

  13. #75
    DONOR
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Sault Ste. Marie
    Posts
    3,989
    Thanks
    481
    Thanked 989 Times in 654 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Yes, but that's because he doesn't seem interested in taking the kind of risks AA did. We'll never get a Donaldson trade under Shatkins, but we'll also never get a Dickey trade either.
    The Colon, Lee, Sabathia, and Jimenez deals would qualify as pretty big trades in my books.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •