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    Quote Originally Posted by gruber92 View Post
    Ryan Goins says hey.
    Ryan Goins, the guy who can't stick in MLB?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gruber92 View Post
    Being short and quick will allow a bit longer to recognize before committing, his OBP will go up. Kevin Pillar is committed in being a top of the order type bat. I believe he has the talent to do it, but we'll see.
    Thats not how this works lol. You either have a good eye/plate vision or you don't. Your OBP doesn't magically increase by shortening your stride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Ryan Goins, the guy who can't stick in MLB?
    Buffalo Bisons starting shortstop Ryan Goins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Ryan Goins, the guy who can't stick in MLB?
    Ryan Goins...... Is that not Darwin Barneys understudy

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    You guy's aren't scared that Goins has a legit shot at making this roster if Travis isn't ready. Watch him platoon with Barney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonn View Post
    You guy's aren't scared that Goins has a legit shot at making this roster if Travis isn't ready. Watch him platoon with Barney.
    Not yet, it's March 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Ryan Goins, the guy who can't stick in MLB?
    Wrong.. I guess the past three years don't count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonn View Post
    You guy's aren't scared that Goins has a legit shot at making this roster if Travis isn't ready. Watch him platoon with Barney.
    What would that prove exactly? That Ryan Goins can be useful in a pinch? No one has ever argued otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy225 View Post
    Well if he is committed then.... I don't know why more players don't become more committed to being better ball players if it is that easy.

    He has not cracked a 5% walk rate since 2013 and thats assuming that 7.5BB% is average in the MLB. I don't know how someone can be so convinced that just because he wants to be a top of the lineup hitter and raise is walk rate 3% its a skill he simply does not have.
    More players don't do it because they refuse to sacrifice power in the process. Like Ichiro once said that he could hit 30 HR a year if he wanted to, but didn't want to sacrifice his on base numbers. He felt he was more valuable being on base more, not that I'm comparing Pillar to Ichiro. Pillar is seemingly headed towards that type of commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stangstag View Post
    Thats not how this works lol. You either have a good eye/plate vision or you don't. Your OBP doesn't magically increase by shortening your stride.
    Yeah, that's how it does basically work. Results will obviously vary depending on the mental make up of the player, only if you're willing to sacrifice power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruber92 View Post
    Yeah, that's how it does basically work. Results will obviously vary depending on the mental make up of the player, only if you're willing to sacrifice power.
    So where do you see the .440 Slg come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruber92 View Post
    Wrong.. I guess the past three years don't count.
    He's only ever on the team when Travis gets injured. When Travis is healthy, he's in AAA. That's not my definition of sticking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gruber92 View Post
    More players don't do it because they refuse to sacrifice power in the process. Like Ichiro once said that he could hit 30 HR a year if he wanted to, but didn't want to sacrifice his on base numbers. He felt he was more valuable being on base more, not that I'm comparing Pillar to Ichiro. Pillar is seemingly headed towards that type of commitment.
    LOL what is this? Please keep posting.

    So Pillar doesn't walk because he doesn't want to sacrifice his non-existant power? Wut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gruber92 View Post
    Yeah, that's how it does basically work. Results will obviously vary depending on the mental make up of the player, only if you're willing to sacrifice power.
    If thats him selling out on power that is hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    LOL what is this? Please keep posting.

    So Pillar doesn't walk because he doesn't want to sacrifice his non-existant power? Wut?
    I don't know man, makes plenty of sense to me. I think anyone here would prefer opposite field groundball slap singles as opposed to boring homers where he can't even utilize his speed.
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    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    LOL what is this? Please keep posting.

    So Pillar doesn't walk because he doesn't want to sacrifice his non-existant power? Wut?
    Actual results vs what you're trying to achieve are two different things. To simplify, his swing was too long for his natural ability to hit MLB pitching with the same consistency as he did in the minors. Nobody said he had raw power.

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