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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Snarls View Post
    Nothing wrong with Carerra as 4th OF for 2M

    We just need upgrade our everyday corner OF spots - Maybe give Hernandez a shot in LF, and also acquire a legit corner OF via free agency to replace Bautista. Or can we count on Pearce to be an everyday OF next year?
    Yes, it seems one of the OF spots will be filled by an internal candidate (Alford or Hernandez). The big question is who would be that 'legit corner OFer' to target in free agency. Cain would be nice but the price and term may be too high. Also he probably would prefer to stay as everyday CFer. maybe a Carlos Gomez or Jarrod Dyson or Terminator's suggestion of Kendrick.

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    I'd rather have a player with 5 HR potential with good defense, a .350+ OBP and some speed. The Jays have/have had enough players with 20-30 HR potential and not much else on their roster over the years.
    I don't think it will happen anyway. They aren't going to meet Martinez's price and the Mets are talking about keeping Bruce now. After that it drops off to pretty much nothing for free agent slugging OFers. Now is the time for the Jays to retool the offensive approach with more speed and less HR dependence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Havok View Post
    You've never heard of the waiver trade deadline have you?


    Oy this is a whole new level of uninformed stupidity
    He should buy MLB the show, might teach him a thing or two about revocable waivers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tazsub3 View Post
    He should buy MLB the show, might teach him a thing or two about revocable waivers...
    To be fair, he was probably placed on waivers early on before the string of good starts. I have seen some spots speculate he would make it through then. Some team with budget wiggle room might have taken a stab at him though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wk680 View Post
    Yes, it seems one of the OF spots will be filled by an internal candidate (Alford or Hernandez). The big question is who would be that 'legit corner OFer' to target in free agency. Cain would be nice but the price and term may be too high. Also he probably would prefer to stay as everyday CFer. maybe a Carlos Gomez or Jarrod Dyson or Terminator's suggestion of Kendrick.



    I don't think it will happen anyway. They aren't going to meet Martinez's price and the Mets are talking about keeping Bruce now. After that it drops off to pretty much nothing for free agent slugging OFers. Now is the time for the Jays to retool the offensive approach with more speed and less HR dependence.
    Speed is great when you need 1 run in the bottom of the 9th at home. It's no way to build a truly effective offense. The thing with speed is its only really useful if you get on base alot. If you're an average obp or worse... your speed doesn't really matter

    But I think what you're saying is the Jays could afford to lose 1 3-outcomes guy and replace with 1 speed guy.

    That's gonna happen on its own when Bautista is gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Havok View Post
    Speed is great when you need 1 run in the bottom of the 9th at home. It's no way to build a truly effective offense. The thing with speed is its only really useful if you get on base alot. If you're an average obp or worse... your speed doesn't really matter

    But I think what you're saying is the Jays could afford to lose 1 3-outcomes guy and replace with 1 speed guy.

    That's gonna happen on its own when Bautista is gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrioter View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Havok View Post
    Speed is great when you need 1 run in the bottom of the 9th at home. It's no way to build a truly effective offense. The thing with speed is its only really useful if you get on base alot. If you're an average obp or worse... your speed doesn't really matter

    But I think what you're saying is the Jays could afford to lose 1 3-outcomes guy and replace with 1 speed guy.

    That's gonna happen on its own when Bautista is gone
    Yeah switching out Bautista for a light-hitting speedster would be OK, but what I really mean is getting guys in there with speed and some pop, like Cain or Gomez that I mentioned above. Isn't Alford predicted to have the chance to be that kind of player (essentially a 20/20 guy)?

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    Anybody heard if Estrada has cleared waivers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdyment View Post
    Anybody heard if Estrada has cleared waivers?
    I would guess teams would try to claim him so no point in trying to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flafson View Post
    I would guess teams would try to claim him so no point in trying to do so.
    What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P2F View Post
    What?
    I know, I'm curious as to the reasoning too. The whole point would be to trade him for something, then sign him again in the offseason if you wanted him back
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    A very high % of players are put on waivers..can't remember the number, but this discussion seems to come up every season. And a lot go through. I would bet that Estrada has already cleared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krylian View Post
    A very high % of players are put on waivers..can't remember the number, but this discussion seems to come up every season. And a lot go through. I would bet that Estrada has already cleared.
    Over 90% easy.
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    Lol.. I'd be willing to bet everything i own in a race vs Bautista. I'm telling you seriously, he has no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdyment View Post
    Anybody heard if Estrada has cleared waivers?
    He only went up yesterday per Rosenthal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade View Post
    He only went up yesterday per Rosenthal.
    They probably want to see what we can get for him vs. keeping him, if they like him they will probably try to resign him anyway, doubt we are getting any kind of discount for doing it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flafson View Post
    They probably want to see what we can get for him vs. keeping him, if they like him they will probably try to resign him anyway, doubt we are getting any kind of discount for doing it now.
    Yeah, likely some teams have called to test the waters so in order to even go beyond preliminary lip service, they gotta try and get him through waivers.
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