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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBJay View Post
    Boston reportedly offered JDM a 5 year deal close to 200 million.
    Where is this report? I see that they have a 5 year deal on the table, but nowhere do I see that it's for $200m.

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    Hosmer has multiple 7-year offers lol
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    Apparently KC offered 7 years, $147M. At least the AAV isn't totally bonkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    Apparently KC offered 7 years, $147M. At least the AAV isn't totally bonkers.
    At $21M/year, that's fair for a 1B with consistent 20+HR power and decent walk rates, and a gold glove.. of course, not many teams really need a 1B outside of SD and KC, so his market's seriously limited..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Dinger View Post
    Apparently KC offered 7 years, $147M. At least the AAV isn't totally bonkers.
    Is Eric Hosmer the most overrated player in baseball since Derek Jeter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Is Eric Hosmer the most overrated player in baseball since Derek Jeter?
    Derek Jeter had some 6 and 7 war seasons on his resume. He at least lived up to the hype at points in his career and overall he had a legitimately great career. Hosmer's nothing special. He's the rare player who is overrated on both offense and defense. The hype hasn't reached Jeter level of irritating but I'd say it's more disconnected from reality than Jeter's hype was. The big difference is that the hype is going to crash right down when Hosmer's contract becomes an alabtross whereas Jeter will still walk on water when we're all dead.

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    Hosmer was USA's starting 1B over Goldschmidt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKat View Post
    The big difference is that the hype is going to crash right down when Hosmer's contract becomes an alabtross whereas Jeter will still walk on water when we're all dead.
    Maybe not in Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxcar View Post
    Is Eric Hosmer the most overrated player in baseball since Derek Jeter?
    And yet Jeter is going to be a first ballot HOF'er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKat View Post
    Derek Jeter had some 6 and 7 war seasons on his resume. He at least lived up to the hype at points in his career and overall he had a legitimately great career. Hosmer's nothing special. He's the rare player who is overrated on both offense and defense. The hype hasn't reached Jeter level of irritating but I'd say it's more disconnected from reality than Jeter's hype was. The big difference is that the hype is going to crash right down when Hosmer's contract becomes an alabtross whereas Jeter will still walk on water when we're all dead.
    Yeah I guess that's all true. I just wish Dombrowski was caught up in the hype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krylian View Post
    And yet Jeter is going to be a first ballot HOF'er.
    He might even be the first unanimous selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krylian View Post
    And yet Jeter is going to be a first ballot HOF'er.
    As he should be. But Scott Rolen won't be and Rolen was a much better player, that's my point. Jeter is a HOF but he's not a top ballot guy like he's being treated.
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    Anyone here applying for the Fangraphs writer job?

    I would but with only 5 years to a juicy pension, makes no sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krylian View Post
    And yet Jeter is going to be a first ballot HOF'er.
    He's incredibly overrated defensively but offensively he's a surefire HOF any day of the week.

    The issue I think most have is that he's revered as some defensive wizard, when he was overall pretty below average and downright awful the majority of his career. The fact that he had such a great bat and played in New York cause many to give him way more credit for defense than he deserved, and is actually overrated as a result.

    The fact that Scott Rolen and Jeter finished their careers 1 WAR apart and 1 is talked about like he's the second coming of Christ and the other is just written off the HOF ballot likes he's nothing... shows that Jeter is in fact overrated, whilst Rolen is criminally underrated.
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    Jeter being overrated has more to do with him being considered one of MLB's top stars each and every year he was in the league when in reality he only once was in the Top 5 for WAR. John is right as well, his defense was really shitty at times throughout his career. He was able to correct it mid career but it again tanked once he got old. Playing for the most storied franchise in sports and winning titles certainly helped with his rep. He's more than qualified for the HoF but his candidacy revolves around a lengthy and healthy career where he racked up lots of WAR and counting stats each year without actually putting up superstar numbers.

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    Jeter has just a couple of WAR more than Larry Walker, but played about 750 more games.

    For the record, Rolen played 50 more games than Walker. By WAR, Walker ~ Rolen >> Jeter

    Walker had no weaknesses in his game. It's ridiculous the short shrift he is getting from the HOF voters.
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