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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthe4th View Post
    That's the perfect example of why the players are being screwed. A system so flush with money that a Tommy Hunter can be paid $9m a year because he's 31 and been around for years, but stars like Correa and Bryant are paid small fractions of their market worth because of artificially keeping contracts low in the first few years of a player's career, is a system that is at best deeply unfair, and at worst is broken.
    In many ways that's true everywhere though. You get paid more as you gain seniority. It really just models any other business sector. Senior MLB players are basically the upper management and CEOs, rookies are the entry level guys, and MiLB players are the interns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination View Post
    In many ways that's true everywhere though. You get paid more as you gain seniority. It really just models any other business sector. Senior MLB players are basically the upper management and CEOs, rookies are the entry level guys, and MiLB players are the interns.
    Not in a performance driven marketplace like sport it isnít. Because the main North American sports are closed systems with no realistic competition from other leagues then they can have such rules. But in any worldwide sport, players are paid based on talent first and seniority second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthe4th View Post
    Not in a performance driven marketplace like sport it isn’t. Because the main North American sports are closed systems with no realistic competition from other leagues then they can have such rules. But in any worldwide sport, players are paid based on talent first and seniority second.
    This is somewhat offset when players get signing bonuses through the draft or international signings.
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    Heck no. I'm not too impressed with Garcia. Has been overly wild imo and gotten them to chase some which has helped a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthe4th View Post
    Not in a performance driven marketplace like sport it isn’t. Because the main North American sports are closed systems with no realistic competition from other leagues then they can have such rules. But in any worldwide sport, players are paid based on talent first and seniority second.
    I'm not sure about that in team sports. Solo ones like golf and tennis, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abomination View Post
    I'm not sure about that in team sports. Solo ones like golf and tennis, obviously.
    It happens in soccer, cricket, and both forms of rugby, which are the main non North American team sports.

    Itís because with competition you canít have a salary cap, and therefore you canít restrict wages, because players will just go abroad to somewhere where they can get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgfiller View Post
    That likely doesn't take much more effort than a regular windup, if any. Bauer is already known for his intense training routine before games, I doubt the Indians care at this point.
    That certainly takes much more effort than a wind up, hence 117 mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Snarls View Post
    Trevor Bauer at Driveline

    Clocked throwing 117 mp/h using a three hop step

    I suspect his team would like him to not be doing this

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/11/in...ph-pitch-video
    I doubt they care. It's not like he just picked it up and threw it with max intent like it was a game at the state fair.

    There is a strict and diligent process that happens at driveline. Max velo days are the same as figuring out 1 rep max in the gym for squats, deadlifts or bench. Tested periodically to ensure the training is providing results! If it's not, find out why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHurl View Post
    And a 3 oz ball. The Indians have stated they are fully supportive of the Driveline training
    Driveline is likely one of the major reasons that Bauer is actually good now.

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    Gotta feel for the Orioles, Britton might not even pitch in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AledmysDiaz View Post
    Gotta feel for the Orioles, Britton might not even pitch in 2018.
    We feel nothing for the Orioles here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AledmysDiaz View Post
    Gotta feel for the Orioles, Britton might not even pitch in 2018.
    Not pitching is better than coming back in September. Now they can not offer him arbitration (although I'd have to think that means the end of their relationship)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AledmysDiaz View Post
    Gotta feel for the Orioles, Britton might not even pitch in 2018.
    Where are you getting this from, I'm finding half the season?

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    Unresolved 2018 Arbitration Cases
    By Jeff Todd | January 12, 2018 at 6:02pm CDT

    We’ve covered a whole lot of arbitration deals today, many of them reached before today’s deadline to exchange filing figures. Some other agreements have come together after team and player submitted their numbers. It’s still possible, of course, that these situations will be resolved before an arbitration hearing becomes necessary. (At this point, we seem to lack full clarity on teams’ approaches to negotiations after the filing deadline. And most organizations make exceptions for multi-year deals even if they have a file-and-trial stance.)

    Some situations could even be dealt with in short order. As things stand, though, these unresolved arbitration cases could turn into significant hearings. (As always, MLBTR’s 2018 arbitration projections can be found here; you will also want to reference MLBTR’s 2018 arbitration tracker.)


    Marcus Stroman, Blue Jays: Stroman filed at $6.9MM, Toronto countered at $6.5MM (per Bob Nightengale of USA Today, via Twitter)

    Roberto Osuna, Blue Jays: Osuna filed at $5.8MM, Toronto countered at $5.3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)


    Mookie Betts, Red Sox: expected to go to hearing, per Alex Speier of the Boston Globe (via Twitter); Betts filed at $10.5MM, Boston countered at $7.5MM (per Jon Heyman of Fan Rag, via Twitter)

    George Springer, Astros: did not settle, per Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle (via Twitter); Springer filed at $10.5MM, Houston countered at $8.5MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Ken Giles, Astros: did not settle, per Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle (via Twitter); Giles filed at $4.6MM, Houston countered at $4.2MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Collin McHugh, Astros: did not settle, per Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle (via Twitter); McHugh filed at $5.0MM, Houston countered at $4.55MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Jose Iglesias, Tigers: Iglesias filed at $6.8MM, Detroit countered at $5.6MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Avisail Garcia, White Sox: Garcia filed at $6.7MM, Chicago countered at $5.85MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Trevor Bauer, Indians: Bauer filed at $6.525MM, Cleveland countered at $5.3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Jake Odorizzi, Rays: Odorizzi filed at $6.3MM, Tampa Bay countered at $6.05MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Adeiny Hechavarria, Rays: Hechavarria filed at $5.9MM, Tampa Bay countered at $5.35MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Kevin Gausman, Orioles: Gausman filed at $6.225MM, Baltimore countered at $5.3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Scooter Gennett, Reds: expected to go to hearing, per Zach Buchanan of the Cincinnati Enquirer; Gennett filed at $5.7MM, Cincinnati countered at $5.1MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Eugenio Suarez, Reds: expected to go to hearing, per Zach Buchanan of the Cincinnati Enquirer

    Shelby Miller, Diamondbacks: Miller filed at $4.9MM, Arizona countered $4.7MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Kyle Gibson, Twins: Gibson filed at $4.55MM, Minnesota countered at $4.2MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    J.T. Realmuto, Marlins: have not agreed to terms, per team announcement; Realmuto filed at $3.5MM, Miami countered at 2.9MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Dan Straily, Marlins: have not agreed to terms, per team announcement; Straily filed at $3.55MM, Miami countered at $3.57MM (per Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, via Twitter)

    Justin Bour, Marlins: have not agreed to terms, per team announcement; Bour filed at $3.4MM, Miami countered at $3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Brandon Maurer, Royals: have hit stalemate, per Jeffrey Flanagan of MLB.com (via Twitter); Maurer filed at $3.5MM, Kansas City countered at $2.95MM (per Rustin Dodd of the Kansas City Star, via Twitter)

    Felipe Rivero, Pirates: Rivero filed at $2.9MM, Pittsburgh countered at $2.4MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Kendall Graveman, Athletics: Graveman filed at $2.6MM, Oakland countered at $5.3MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Justin Grimm, Cubs: Grimm filed at $2.475MM, Chicago countered at $2.2MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Mike Foltynewicz, Braves: Foltynewicz filed at $2.3MM, Atlanta countered at $2.2MM (per Heyman, via Twitter)

    Zack Wheeler, Mets: Wheeler filed at $1.9MM, New York countered at $1.5MM (per Ken Davidoff of the New York Post, via Twitter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky99 View Post

    Dan Straily, Marlins: have not agreed to terms, per team announcement; Straily filed at $3.55MM, Miami countered at $3.57MM (per Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, via Twitter)
    WTF, seriously Miami???

    Ah, re-read it. Must be a typo.

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    Apparently the Royals are targetting Ryan Goins.
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    I think the Trump presidency has been a smashing success so far, tbh.

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    Saw this pleasantry on MLBTR...

    Aug. 1 through season’s end, Donaldson batted a ridiculous .302/.410/.698 batting line with 22 homers in 227 plate appearances.
    Holy Fuck!

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