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    Quote Originally Posted by jerb View Post
    Can we go trade for Brandon Nimmo now please? Lefty bat who can play all 3 OF positions. He'd be an ideal fit as out 4th OFer - someone who could platoon with Teoscar. The Mets once again have a log jam in the OF, so we might get him at a reasonable cost.

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    I just think in the last 2 years with how more and more team have analytics departments and are relying on them. Its going to hurt guys that are basically all power guys no defensive value and strike out a lot. I don't see a lot of difference between him Chris Davis, and Trumbo. If that power ever dips and i have a feeling it will he is going to be a sunken cost.

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    The CBA is definitely going to have to change next time. Maybe start arb sooner, or five years of team control instead of six, or higher minimum based salaries, etc. The players are getting screwed big time in MLB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy225 View Post
    I just think in the last 2 years with how more and more team have analytics departments and are relying on them. Its going to hurt guys that are basically all power guys no defensive value and strike out a lot. I don't see a lot of difference between him Chris Davis, and Trumbo. If that power ever dips and i have a feeling it will he is going to be a sunken cost.
    Let's not group Mark Trumbo in with JD Martinez or Chris Davis please. His career best was a 2.4 WAR season back in 2012. He belongs in the Khris Davis category.

    Outside of an injury ridden 2016, J.D. Martinez has been posting 4-5 WAR seasons with a wRC+ of about 145 since he reinvented his swing. Every analytics department in baseball would drool over that. The man is an elite hitter. The question is - how will he age and how much risk is there?

    It's funny you mention Chris Davis, as he might be the reason for teams to pause. He put up 2 MASSIVE offensive seasons in 2013 and 2015 - averaging about 6.5 WAR and a wRC+ of 160. The issue with him is he was utter shit in 2014 and has since gone from being one of the best offensive players in baseball to useless in a hurry.

    Is JD Martinez going to be Nelson Cruz? or will he be Chris Davis? Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownie19 View Post
    Can we go trade for Brandon Nimmo now please? Lefty bat who can play all 3 OF positions. He'd be an ideal fit as out 4th OFer - someone who could platoon with Teoscar. The Mets once again have a log jam in the OF, so we might get him at a reasonable cost.
    Makes shit loads of sense. I like that idea. I have wanted him since his draft year to be honest.

    Also I am extremely thrilled Jay Bruce signed elsewhere. I wanted nothing to do with him. Not a bad deal for the Mets but still no thanks.

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    ITT: People lining up to give away assets to get shitty players.

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    Whoa. I hadn't realized Dave Cameron had Leukemia back in 2011.

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...110-story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by glory View Post
    The CBA is definitely going to have to change next time. Maybe start arb sooner, or five years of team control instead of six, or higher minimum based salaries, etc. The players are getting screwed big time in MLB.
    I have a hard time believing the players are getting screwed in the MLB when Tommy Hunter is getting paid 9 million a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty_Savage View Post
    I have a hard time believing the players are getting screwed in the MLB when Tommy Hunter is getting paid 9 million a year
    That's the perfect example of why the players are being screwed. A system so flush with money that a Tommy Hunter can be paid $9m a year because he's 31 and been around for years, but stars like Correa and Bryant are paid small fractions of their market worth because of artificially keeping contracts low in the first few years of a player's career, is a system that is at best deeply unfair, and at worst is broken.

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    Trevor Bauer at Driveline

    Clocked throwing 117 mp/h using a three hop step

    I suspect his team would like him to not be doing this

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/11/in...ph-pitch-video
    Last edited by G-Snarls; 01-12-2018 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty_Savage View Post
    I have a hard time believing the players are getting screwed in the MLB when Tommy Hunter is getting paid 9 million a year
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthe4th View Post
    That's the perfect example of why the players are being screwed. A system so flush with money that a Tommy Hunter can be paid $9m a year because he's 31 and been around for years, but stars like Correa and Bryant are paid small fractions of their market worth because of artificially keeping contracts low in the first few years of a player's career, is a system that is at best deeply unfair, and at worst is broken.
    What's you guys' beef with Tommy Hunter lol? He was excellent last year, and projects really well. He throws really hard, all of his pitches improved in velocity last season.
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    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Snarls View Post
    Trevor Bauer at Driveline

    Clocked throwing 117 mp/h using a three hop step

    I suspect his team would like him to not be doing this

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/11/in...ph-pitch-video
    That likely doesn't take much more effort than a regular windup, if any. Bauer is already known for his intense training routine before games, I doubt the Indians care at this point.
    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    Synder is mediocre at best this year. Let me know when Synder is giving up less runs per game than Sanchez, until then I'll take Sanchez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgfiller View Post
    What's you guys' beef with Tommy Hunter lol? He was excellent last year, and projects really well. He throws really hard, all of his pitches improved in velocity last season.
    Haha, nothing with him specifically- hes simply an example of a player being paid significantly more than genuine MVP level stars.

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    Its not that the teams dont want to spend, they just dont want to overpay in Free Agency based on their models.

    Teams just have way smarter analytics now. They have a price for a player and they won't budge from it because doing so is a waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgfiller View Post
    That likely doesn't take much more effort than a regular windup, if any. Bauer is already known for his intense training routine before games, I doubt the Indians care at this point.
    Looked like an awful lot of effort to me. I'd be terrified if it was Stroman or Sanchez pulling a stunt like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Snarls View Post
    Trevor Bauer at Driveline

    Clocked throwing 117 mp/h using a three hop step

    I suspect his team would like him to not be doing this

    https://www.si.com/mlb/2018/01/11/in...ph-pitch-video
    And a 3 oz ball. The Indians have stated they are fully supportive of the Driveline training
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