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View Poll Results: Which Trio Do You Feel Would Be The Better Fit On The 2022 Jays?

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  • Semien/Ray/Matz

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  • Chapman/Gausman/Kikuchi

    16 76.19%
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Thread: Semien/Ray/Matz vs Chapman/Gausman/Kikuchi

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    Semien/Ray/Matz vs Chapman/Gausman/Kikuchi

    I believe most can agree that we essentially have the same team but swapped Semien/Ray/Matz for Chapman/Gausman/Kikuchi. Now I understand the easy answer could be the top 3 finalist and CY Young winner from last year but I think the answer is a bit more complicated than that.

    First, you'd have to assume that Ray/Semien would be able to replicate the same year after cashing in on their performances. Then you have to be an optimist and believe Chapman has more room for improvements and will be hungry for his big pay day exactly like Semien was prior to joining us.

    You'd also have to consider factors like Semien being a 2B, which created a hole for us at 3B whereas a player like Chapman plugs that hole and let's Biggio play in his more suitable position at 2B.

    So ultimately, which trio of players would you want on this team going forward if money wasn't a factor for the Jays? And if you feel the answer is Semien/Ray/Matz, do you feel we're a worse team than last year? Or do you assume the uptick in our young players should easily cover the downgrade and more?

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    Can I take Semien/Chapman/Ray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFD View Post
    Can I take Semien/Chapman/Ray?
    No, you fail the test.

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    Freeman/J Ram/Ray

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    Freeman/J Ram/Ray
    2 F's and counting lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jays24 View Post
    2 F's and counting lol.
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    Hard to say, I mean flip a coin really. Chapman maybe tips the scales in the latter trio's favor because I think he fits a much bigger need at 3B defensively than Semien did at 2B.

    Bottom line is I'm more excited this year because I see the "trio-swap" as a wash basically, and we are starting the season with Berrios/Manoah instead of Roark/Zeuch and the bullpen looks much better on paper at least.

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    Add their salaries to the equation and then ask the same question

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    Steib, Halladay and Gruber, the latter's a good fit at 3rd base, to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky99 View Post
    Steib, Halladay and Gruber, the latter's a good fit at 3rd base, to be honest.
    You meant to type: Baileys/Stoli/Goldschlager

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
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    I think it's a more interesting question once you factor in the opportunity cost. We lose 2 picks by resigning Semien and Ray but we keep Hoglund, Smith++. However we're spending 25 million on a 2nd baseman for the rest of the decade basically.

    I like the route we took.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat My Shatkins View Post
    Hard to say, I mean flip a coin really. Chapman maybe tips the scales in the latter trio's favor because I think he fits a much bigger need at 3B defensively than Semien did at 2B.

    Bottom line is I'm more excited this year because I see the "trio-swap" as a wash basically, and we are starting the season with Berrios/Manoah instead of Roark/Zeuch and the bullpen looks much better on paper at least.
    I forgot we started the season with Zeuch and Roark in the rotation. Ooof.

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    Tough call. I think last year's trio will have higher WAR, but it also means Biggio at 3B.

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    All things being equal, I'd probably take Ray over Gausman (though, that may be more a "devil you know" thing, since they really are pretty close talent level), but I take Chapman over Semien and Kikuchi over Matz, so I like this year better.
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    I'm pretty high on Kikuchi and have full trust in Pete

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