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    Kind of sick of Bo and his sub par defense, especially true when he's only bringing a barely above league average bat.

    If Correa opts out of his contract next off season the Jays need to quit fucking around go hard after him.

    If Bo doesn't want to move off short then he can be a trade chip IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat My Shatkins View Post
    Kind of sick of Bo and his sub par defense, especially true when he's only bringing a barely above league average bat.

    If Correa opts out of his contract next off season the Jays need to quit fucking around go hard after him.

    If Bo doesn't want to move off short then he can be a trade chip IMO.
    I think playing a position that he isnít really good enough to play might be hurting him as well honestly.

    I donít know why we donít just play Espinal there now at least a few times a week. Give him a few days at an easier position.

    We donít need to appease him and heís not really the kind of player that you want to give an early extension to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat My Shatkins View Post
    Kind of sick of Bo and his sub par defense, especially true when he's only bringing a barely above league average bat.

    If Correa opts out of his contract next off season the Jays need to quit fucking around go hard after him.

    If Bo doesn't want to move off short then he can be a trade chip IMO.
    Since when is Bo’s defense sub-par? It’s not elite sure, but he’s no ham fisted butcher. Yeah, he’s gonna sail a throw or two every once in a while, but he’s still a decent defensive SS. Also, he’ll probably be closer to his career 120 wrc+ by the end of the season than he is to league average with the bat. Horrendous April is behind him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Havok View Post
    Since when is Bo’s defense sub-par? It’s not elite sure, but he’s no ham fisted butcher. Yeah, he’s gonna sail a throw or two every once in a while, but he’s still a decent defensive SS. Also, he’ll probably be closer to his career 120 wrc+ by the end of the season than he is to league average with the bat. Horrendous April is behind him.
    I am not sure how valid the Fangraphs overall defensive value number is but:
    in 50044 PA worth of playing time, Xander Bogaerts has a total of +10.4
    in 1342 PA worth of playing time, Bo Bichette has a total defensive value of +1.2.

    I use Bogaerts as a comparison since he is generally regarded to be a mediocre defender at SS (especially being limited in range) and has been able to remain there due to his bat and his overall status as a vetrin presenz on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Havok View Post
    Since when is Bo’s defense sub-par? It’s not elite sure, but he’s no ham fisted butcher. Yeah, he’s gonna sail a throw or two every once in a while, but he’s still a decent defensive SS. Also, he’ll probably be closer to his career 120 wrc+ by the end of the season than he is to league average with the bat. Horrendous April is behind him.
    Yeah, sub par wasn't a good description, my bad.

    Very mediocre is more appropriate I guess.

    Leaves me wanting more, especially with his unspectacular offense this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Havok View Post
    Since when is Bo’s defense sub-par? It’s not elite sure, but he’s no ham fisted butcher. Yeah, he’s gonna sail a throw or two every once in a while, but he’s still a decent defensive SS. Also, he’ll probably be closer to his career 120 wrc+ by the end of the season than he is to league average with the bat. Horrendous April is behind him.
    Bo and his T-Rex arms are sub par at SS
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    Bo and his T-Rex arms are sub par at SS
    There he is, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky99 View Post
    There he is, lol.
    I mean his last 3 or 4 games aside from the last AB today have been extra bad. I mean the loss was directly on his short arm crappy throw and he almost blew it on a shovel to 2nd in the 9th yesterday. Like WTF, these are routine plays, not trying to make hard plays. Thats just crap defense
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    Objectively he isnt a good SS. Can he be....yes he can. Dude needs to focus out there i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetTheBallFly View Post
    I mean his last 3 or 4 games aside from the last AB today have been extra bad. I mean the loss was directly on his short arm crappy throw and he almost blew it on a shovel to 2nd in the 9th yesterday. Like WTF, these are routine plays, not trying to make hard plays. Thats just crap defense
    Lets just take the GS out while we're at it. He didn't short arm the throw, he got cocky and tried to show off/pimp his arm, there's a difference...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spanky99 View Post
    Lets just take the GS out while we're at it.
    Yeah that one too lol. Maybe I'm thinking early in the week. Been pretty sick
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFD View Post
    That's a pretty brutal, but when they have Bogaerts (who I referred to in my previous post as being historically mediocre) in 3rd place, one wonders about the validity of this ranking....... One thing you have to give Bogey is that he is sure-handed like a Cal Ripken and unlike Bichette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dokken View Post
    That's a pretty brutal, but when they have Bogaerts (who I referred to in my previous post as being historically mediocre) in 3rd place, one wonders about the validity of this ranking....... One thing you have to give Bogey is that he is sure-handed like a Cal Ripken and unlike Bichette.
    The defensive analytics we plebs get is skeptical at best. I don't like them one iota, especially after seeing their numbers on Alomar.
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