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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick_Pole View Post
    Not to pile on this disaster thread, but this really doesn't make any sense. This team has absolutely no problems with offense as currently constructed. It wasn't the offense that blew the 8-1 lead. And it's not even December yet so let's wait until Spring Training before making predictions about how the board is going to be next September.
    Well, there were two games and one was a shut out. Of course you could’ve said RP was a more glaring need in the off-season than a bat. I wouldn’t actually debate that. Its just how you about acquiring that. Would’ve made more sense to seal something else imo. We’re all just expressing opinions

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilko View Post
    90 Day Fiance says otherwise.
    Are there any hot ones. Whenever I see news clips from it, it’s not beautiful people

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    There’s really no way to know how the cookie is going to crumble in a few years with the big contracts looming. And how others guys will shake out. I don’t think you subtract from the 2023 team to upgrade RP. Unless you replace it. That’s the hope, they replace it. I’d imagine it’ll be a wait and see acquisition, how they pan out

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    There’s really no way to know how the cookie is going to crumble in a few years with the big contracts looming. And how others guys will shake out. I don’t think you subtract from the 2023 team to upgrade RP. Unless you replace it. That’s the hope, they replace it. I’d imagine it’ll be a wait and see acquisition, how they pan out

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilko View Post
    I wasn’t claiming that opinion was unique. I’m happy to go in with all the other board villains here in that regard

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    Causal fans that blow in the wind are critical to an organization like Toronto

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    You start plucking away the big marketable guys and try to replace that with guys like KK, people will tune out that much faster if it goes south

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    You start plucking away the big marketable guys and try to replace that with guys like KK, people will tune out that much faster if it goes south
    And that's why we should have held on to Kawasaki forever!
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    And that's why we should have held on to Kawasaki forever!
    That’s for zealots and chicks. Different segment. You can get them in for some games with cheap gimmicks…they aren’t watching tv though

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    There’s really no way to know how the cookie is going to crumble in a few years with the big contracts looming. And how others guys will shake out. I don’t think you subtract from the 2023 team to upgrade RP. Unless you replace it. That’s the hope, they replace it. I’d imagine it’ll be a wait and see acquisition, how they pan out
    Of course theyíre going to replace it Connor. They arenít planning on running Biggio out there full time.

    The trade haters always fail to mention the extra 13M this move frees up to address other soft spots on the roster. Thereís no question this move will allow them to be a little more creative in the players they go after. The Jays donít have to be an offensive powerhouse with questionable pitching every year.

    Swanson + new SP + new OF

    Teo + new SP + new BP

    Those are the two equations that will probably be compared to start 2023

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    Quote Originally Posted by L54 View Post
    Of course they’re going to replace it Connor. They aren’t planning on running Biggio out there full time.

    The trade haters always fail to mention the extra 13M this move frees up to address other soft spots on the roster. There’s no question this move will allow them to be a little more creative in the players they go after. The Jays don’t have to be an offensive powerhouse with questionable pitching every year.

    Swanson + new SP + new OF

    Teo + new SP + new BP

    Those are the two equations that will probably be compared to start 2023
    They don’t like Biggio other than bench. No worries there. Merrifield bounce back who knows. We’ll see. I don’t think it’s a sure thing they make a move but probably

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    lol... Connor.
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    Long way of saying Chapmanís bat sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    Are there any hot ones. Whenever I see news clips from it, it’s not beautiful people
    Yeah there are some hot ones. Not a ton, but some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    Are there any hot ones. Whenever I see news clips from it, it’s not beautiful people
    Sorry but aren't you essentially an oompa loompa who lost his green hair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by L54 View Post
    Of course they’re going to replace it Connor. They aren’t planning on running Biggio out there full time.

    The trade haters always fail to mention the extra 13M this move frees up to address other soft spots on the roster. There’s no question this move will allow them to be a little more creative in the players they go after. The Jays don’t have to be an offensive powerhouse with questionable pitching every year.

    Swanson + new SP + new OF

    Teo + new SP + new BP

    Those are the two equations that will probably be compared to start 2023
    Well you'll never get a guy like Teo from free agency for 1/13 or whatever his salary projects at. Like ya, you can sign Nimmo with some of that money but you're going 5 years long and way higher AAV. Teo can give you 4 wins next year on a 1 year deal. It's very unlikely we replace that production at that term.

    You can easily hand out a Kikuchi contract and Swanson loses 1 tick and he's dog shit, and you just cost yourself 3-4 wins in a blink of an eye. Teo is a pretty solid bet to hit next year. His track record has been surprisingly steady.

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    I like how Hernandez supporters/haters of the trade round up his expected WAR up to 4 when he did that once in his career, got to 2.4 for 2022 and is projected about that much for 2023. Can he get to 4 WAR in 2023? Sure. Just like Guerrero could get back over 6 WAR and replace Hernandez's missed production all by himself.

    If you like or hate the trade, at least do so based on actual projections for the players involved*. If I had to guess whether Hernandez beats or misses projections, my guess is that he misses. One year older and replacing AL East parks with AL West ones is not conducive for success for someone of his skillset.

    *Yeah I know some Bellinger supporters say he *could* get to this and that fantasy upside numbers which would look like an absolute steal. But even in the base case scenario, around 1.5 WAR for a one year flier contract - that's not a bad outcome since he can temporarily fill an outfield defensive shortage.

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