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    Quote Originally Posted by jaysblue View Post
    The end goal is to win a World Series.

    Yes the Jays had a solid season, though no player or fan should be jumping for joy the way the season went overall.
    I'm not jumping for joy with how the season went, I just think it's silly speculation from grumpy old men that "they'd have done better if they weren't messing around so much! Damn kids are on my lawn again!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpool View Post
    I'm not jumping for joy with how the season went, I just think it's silly speculation from grumpy old men that "they'd have done better if they weren't messing around so much! Damn kids are on my lawn again!"
    The grumpy old men have more experience in life, let that sink in and learn from it.

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    Nobody has ever said that they’re not allowed to have fun. What people have been critical of is when they’re down 8-3 and the barrio is clowning around at the far end of the dugout.

    The everybody should always have fun jockeys are apart of the participation trophy crowd.

    It’s not the try league!

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    Quote Originally Posted by L54 View Post
    Nobody has ever said that they’re not allowed to have fun. What people have been critical of is when they’re down 8-3 and the barrio is clowning around at the far end of the dugout.

    The everybody should always have fun jockeys are apart of the participation trophy crowd.

    It’s not the try league!
    I'd love to see proof that how players act in the dugout has even a tiny affect on how they perform on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCecil View Post
    People like Swanson this much eh? Looks like he has 1 dominant season and an avg FB V wise. 93.7

    Is his stuff that good? I've barely seen him pitch. Looking forward to hearing a Sarris breakdown on this deal.
    Finally caught a Sarris breakdown FWIW on Swanson and the Nimmo.

    His has Swanson rated better than Montero who just got 3/30, and worth 3/35 in todays market (not that he would be eligible now).

    He likes Nimmo, even at 6/130 which is like $7mm/win based on projections. I was surprised. Loves his OBP and lack of chase. Sees him as major upgrade over Teo. General take was Teo move was pretty clever for money and a number of reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaysAllMighty View Post
    The grumpy old men have more experience in life, let that sink in and learn from it.
    Grumpy old men are about to burn the world to the ground so no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max silver View Post
    I'd love to see proof that how players act in the dugout has even a tiny affect on how they perform on the field.
    I’d like to see you prove it doesn’t. Except you can’t. So don’t say “prove it”

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    I’d like to see you prove it doesn’t. Except you can’t. So don’t say “prove it”
    The claimant has the burden of proof. Max isn't claiming anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcanuck View Post
    The claimant has the burden of proof. Max isn't claiming anything.
    Maybe in something other than sports commentary that may be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpool View Post
    I'm not jumping for joy with how the season went, I just think it's silly speculation from grumpy old men that "they'd have done better if they weren't messing around so much! Damn kids are on my lawn again!"
    I'm kind of in the middle on all this. I don't like the HR jacket much but I don't mind it. I find most fans love the joking around and comradery in the dugout when we are winning and loathe it when we aren't. We heard a lot of talk at the end of the '21 season after their September "almost made it in" run about how great they all got along and how you could see this in the dugout with them joking around all then time. I'd like to see less of it when we are doing/playing poorly myself, but I don't get too upset over it. 162 games is a grind.

    I find I get much more upset about mental errors, poor baserunning, very lackadaisical play etc. It happens on every team at times, but there is never really a good excuse for it at this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    Maybe in something other than sports commentary that may be true
    In everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laika View Post
    In everything

    Basic logic
    Bro. Like 95% of ESPN and TNT sports commentary is opinions on stuff like that. Accept it and move on. Save the legal jargon for your work pushing papers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCecil View Post
    I'm kind of in the middle on all this. I don't like the HR jacket much but I don't mind it. I find most fans love the joking around and comradery in the dugout when we are winning and loathe it when we aren't. We heard a lot of talk at the end of the '21 season after their September "almost made it in" run about how great they all got along and how you could see this in the dugout with them joking around all then time. I'd like to see less of it when we are doing/playing poorly myself, but I don't get too upset over it. 162 games is a grind.

    I find I get much more upset about mental errors, poor baserunning, very lackadaisical play etc. It happens on every team at times, but there is never really a good excuse for it at this level.
    That's exactly the type of thing I take issue with as well. What happens on the field is ultimately what matters, I just don't see how fun loving guys *gasp* enjoying each others company and having fun is worth getting so upset about. When the team was in protracted slumps and losing a lot of games in short order it was easy to see the mood on the bench souring and a lot less of the upbeat nature. I don't understand why people seem to think the players should be acting like they are a funeral when the team is behind in the score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by connorp View Post
    Bro. Like 95% of ESPN and TNT sports commentary is opinions on stuff like that. Accept it and move on. Save the legal jargon for your work pushing papers
    You are such an NPC lmao
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    Erik Swanson was put in high leverage situations 16% of the time last year. The other 84% were low leverage or mid leverge situation. 62% of the batters he faced were below league average hitters. The average OPS+ of the hitters he faced last year was an OPS+ of 87.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saskjayfan View Post
    Erik Swanson was put in high leverage situations 16% of the time last year. The other 84% were low leverage or mid leverge situation. 62% of the batters he faced were below league average hitters. The average OPS+ of the hitters he faced last year was an OPS+ of 87.8.

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