Around Baseball 2023

[Dick_Pole]

The most ridiculous part of the process is that only 10.2% of the voters thought he was a HOF'er in 2018. Those guys who didn't vote for him the previous 5 votes, finally got around to looking up his stats?


Beltran (probably the best player on this ballot not named ARod) will get in likely in 2027. The pool over voters should be 10,000 have to answer baseball trivia to unlock their ballot and when you vote, you don't get another for at least 5 years. Then people might vote properly. I've just given too much thought for something that every year I say is something I don't care about.

It's basic human psychology. Jumping on a bandwagon instead of thinking for yourself. It's prevalent in all facets of society. Without it, I wouldn't be able to load up on some bullshit penny stock, wait 5 years for something to happen, then cash out a 7-digit figure. I'm fine with it.

[jaysblue]

Kenny Lofton career 62.4 WAR. Over 600 stolen bases. Crazy to believe he was snubbed.

[connorp]

Does it matter who the target was?

God you’re such a moron

It definitely matters. You’re talking two different kind of people in each scenario. Sorry you guys are so emotional in your thinking (as always).

If you have a guy that accidentally catches a girl with an elbow when he’s going to punch another guy, is he on the same moral level as someone that cold cock punches a girl out?

[Stangstag]

It definitely matters. You’re talking two different kind of people in each scenario. Sorry you guys are so emotional in your thinking (as always).

If you have a guy that accidentally catches a girl with an elbow when he’s going to punch another guy, is he on the same moral level as someone that cold cock punches a girl out?

Whether he’s throwing chewing tabacco at his wife or at his kid, its still trash bag behavior. And it still hit his kid. Actions may have unintended consequences. Doesn’t matter who he was aiming for. Also you’re making a big stretch trying to create this scenario where he wasn’t actually trying to hit the kid.
Stop defending scumbags.

Also aren’t you the one always talking about how the front office needs to take accountability for their actions/failures?? I guess that mindset doesn’t matter for people like Bauer and Clev

[Deadpool]

Whether he’s throwing chewing tabacco at his wife or at his kid, its still trash bag behavior. And it still hit his kid. Actions may have unintended consequences. Doesn’t matter who he was aiming for. Also you’re making a big stretch trying to create this scenario where he wasn’t actually trying to hit the kid.
Stop defending scumbags.

If he stops now, he may have to examine why he stans for scumbags so hard, and I bet that would be an uncomfortable realization...

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Whomever voted for Dickey, Arroyo, Street, Napoli and Lackey should have their voting priviledges revoked immediately. They're obviously fucking morons.

Torii Hunter is being totally disrespected.

[connorp]

If he stops now, he may have to examine why he stans for scumbags so hard, and I bet that would be an uncomfortable realization...

No, man. You guys and your cancel culture are what’s wrong. You need to get all the details before you destroy someone.

Look if someone really beats their wife and that’s generally how they are, honestly I wouldn’t object if they got executed. But you cant just toss everyone in the same bin.

Take the Dana White example. Taking him and his wife’s story at face value, I mean sometimes couples drink too much and there’s scuffling

If someone abused a baby, maybe a little worse than hitting them with tobacco, but seriously I would be first in line saying execute them.

Get all the facts first

[connorp]

It’s kind of like when you go to a management seminar thing and they teach you about not doing this in business. Taking a very limited amount of information and telling yourself a story and making definitive conclusions from it. It’s not good

This is where cancel culture comes from now. A lack of this

[connorp]

Whether he’s throwing chewing tabacco at his wife or at his kid, its still trash bag behavior. And it still hit his kid. Actions may have unintended consequences. Doesn’t matter who he was aiming for. Also you’re making a big stretch trying to create this scenario where he wasn’t actually trying to hit the kid.
Stop defending scumbags.

Also aren’t you the one always talking about how the front office needs to take accountability for their actions/failures?? I guess that mindset doesn’t matter for people like Bauer and Clev

When you sort through the facts of Bauer, all you can really definitively say he’s guilty of is really bad judgement. I think he was more than held accountable for that. What buried him was cancel culture from the jump

[Dick_Pole]

Connor has some interesting analogies. It wasn't a crowded bar, this was his home with minimal possible targets. Even if the tobacco was meant for the fish tank and the baby leapt in front of it like Superman to take the hit instead of his pet, it's still a pretty low move. Now the part I agree with is that evidence should be corroborated before punishment doled out but I and everyone else should be assuming that anyways.

[TheHurl]

No, man. You guys and your cancel culture are what’s wrong. You need to get all the details before you destroy someone.

Look if someone really beats their wife and that’s generally how they are, honestly I wouldn’t object if they got executed. But you cant just toss everyone in the same bin.

Take the Dana White example. Taking him and his wife’s story at face value, I mean sometimes couples drink too much and there’s scuffling

If someone abused a baby, maybe a little worse than hitting them with tobacco, but seriously I would be first in line saying execute them.

Get all the facts first

The tobacco with his kid will draw an emotional response but more importantly it's a direct violation of the Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy (under emotional harm, regardless of it's intended target). The choking and abusing his partner is another (alleged) violation.

We'll never see all the facts unless it becomes a trial. I, unlike some, trust that MLB investigations do their due diligence.

In the meantime he's an alleged piece of shit on Twitter, not cancelled.

[TheHurl]

When you sort through the facts of Bauer, all you can really definitively say he’s guilty of is really bad judgement. I think he was more than held accountable for that. What buried him was cancel culture from the jump

the fact is (and you've pointed this out) we don't know the facts of Bauer. There are still 3 other accusers as well. What buried him may actually be the details and how they pertain to the policy.

[connorp]

The tobacco with his kid will draw an emotional response but more importantly it's a direct violation of the Joint Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault and Child Abuse Policy (under emotional harm, regardless of it's intended target). The choking and abusing his partner is another (alleged) violation.

We'll never see all the facts unless it becomes a trial. I, unlike some, trust that MLB investigations do their due diligence.

In the meantime he's an alleged piece of shit on Twitter, not cancelled.

Purposely throwing tobacco on a 10-month old baby isn’t something I can wrap my head around, so I’ll wait for the facts. I think it’s more likely he threw it at the wife with the baby in the vicinity. I’m sorry I separate the two actions. One I could understand more than the other.

[Pendleton]

No, man. You guys and your cancel culture are what’s wrong. You need to get all the details before you destroy someone.

Look if someone really beats their wife and that’s generally how they are, honestly I wouldn’t object if they got executed. But you cant just toss everyone in the same bin.

Take the Dana White example. Taking him and his wife’s story at face value, I mean sometimes couples drink too much and there’s scuffling

If someone abused a baby, maybe a little worse than hitting them with tobacco, but seriously I would be first in line saying execute them.

Get all the facts first

If cancel culture was that prevalent on these boards, you wouldn't still be here.

[connorp]

the fact is (and you've pointed this out) we don't know the facts of Bauer. There are still 3 other accusers as well. What buried him may actually be the details and how they pertain to the policy.

Dude what buried him was the accusations (many of the alleged worst acts like broken jaw and punching in the pussy untrue) and the pictures which proved to be highly questionable at the least as well. It was judge, jury, executioner from tru beginning. If you choose not to admit that, that’s for you. But by the time the alternative facts started coming out, it was too late

[connorp]

If cancel culture was that prevalent on these boards, you wouldn't still be here.

Laila is actually a secret fan in case you didn’t know